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janmeermans
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To my grader gurus,

We have a Cat 12 grader SN 71D 219 here at the Antique Gas and Steam Engine Museum in Vista CA. It has decals showing it to be a 12E but since that should be a 99-???? it must be mis-marked. Do we have a 12C? What year is it? When did the 8T stop being made?

Thanks guys.

JanM
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 4:18 AM
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"Did you say a 99???" "Maybe an 86?" I'll ask the Chief"
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 4:22 AM
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"Did you say a 99???" "Maybe an 86?" I'll ask the Chief"
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Oh brother Rome. I got all excited thinking I would learn somethin' and look what I got!

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[quote="janmeermans"]To my grader gurus,

We have a Cat 12 grader SN 71D 219 here at the Antique Gas and Steam Engine Museum in Vista CA. It has decals showing it to be a 12E but since that should be a 99-???? it must be mis-marked. Do we have a 12C? What year is it? When did the 8T stop being made?

Thanks guys.

JanM[/quote]

That's a plain #12 model, 1957 production. The letter designation didn't start until the 99E ("E" model) by my records. The 8T production ran until late 1959/60 and was replaced by the 99E in the same period. Total production of the 8T was 21,904 units
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 6:42 AM
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[quote="janmeermans"]To my grader gurus,

We have a Cat 12 grader SN 71D 219 here at the Antique Gas and Steam Engine Museum in Vista CA. It has decals showing it to be a 12E but since that should be a 99-???? it must be mis-marked. Do we have a 12C? What year is it? When did the 8T stop being made?

Thanks guys.

JanM[/quote]

That's a plain #12 model, 1957 production. The letter designation didn't start until the 99E ("E" model) by my records. The 8T production ran until late 1959/60 and was replaced by the 99E in the same period. Total production of the 8T was 21,904 units
There ya go Jan. lol
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 9:26 AM
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There ya go Jan. lol
Thanks old magnet. I knew you would come thru!

Now another question. The Cat 12 has 14.00 x 24.00 tires and rims. Will 13.00 x 24.00 tires and rims fit it?

JanM
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 8:04 PM
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Reply to janmeermans:
Thanks old magnet. I knew you would come thru!

Now another question. The Cat 12 has 14.00 x 24.00 tires and rims. Will 13.00 x 24.00 tires and rims fit it?

JanM
[quote="janmeermans"]Thanks old magnet. I knew you would come thru!

Now another question. The Cat 12 has 14.00 x 24.00 tires and rims. Will 13.00 x 24.00 tires and rims fit it?

JanM[/quote]

13 x 24 (12-ply) is the original equipment size for the rears.
9 x 24 is original equipment size for the fronts.
13 x 24's for the fronts are listed as an "attachment".
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Tue, Aug 14, 2018 10:40 PM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
[quote="janmeermans"]Thanks old magnet. I knew you would come thru!

Now another question. The Cat 12 has 14.00 x 24.00 tires and rims. Will 13.00 x 24.00 tires and rims fit it?

JanM[/quote]

13 x 24 (12-ply) is the original equipment size for the rears.
9 x 24 is original equipment size for the fronts.
13 x 24's for the fronts are listed as an "attachment".
[quote="Old Magnet"]13 x 24 (12-ply) is the original equipment size for the rears.
9 x 24 is original equipment size for the fronts.
13 x 24's for the fronts are listed as an "attachment".[/quote]

OM

Our 1953 Cat 112 has wheels and tires as you laid out above with 9x24 on the front, however, the Cat 12 w/6-cyl. engine currently is set up with 6 - 14 x 24 tires which are shot and need to be replaced. I found 6 - 13 x 24s in good shape and am trying to figure out if they will fit the Cat 12 71D-219 (unknown year)

If 8Ts ran through 1959, did this 71D series run in parallel for a few years since you said ours was 1957?

JanM
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Wed, Aug 15, 2018 12:48 AM
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[quote="Old Magnet"]13 x 24 (12-ply) is the original equipment size for the rears.
9 x 24 is original equipment size for the fronts.
13 x 24's for the fronts are listed as an "attachment".[/quote]

OM

Our 1953 Cat 112 has wheels and tires as you laid out above with 9x24 on the front, however, the Cat 12 w/6-cyl. engine currently is set up with 6 - 14 x 24 tires which are shot and need to be replaced. I found 6 - 13 x 24s in good shape and am trying to figure out if they will fit the Cat 12 71D-219 (unknown year)

If 8Ts ran through 1959, did this 71D series run in parallel for a few years since you said ours was 1957?

JanM
It gets messy, by tire/wheel size it looks like they will interchange but when you go to the actual parts, wheel assy, base rim, flange and ring they are different part numbers.
Looks like I overshot the production of 8T's, my somewhat questionable source says they ended production in 1957. The 71D only produced 742 units from 1957 to 1959.
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Wed, Aug 15, 2018 2:09 AM
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It gets messy, by tire/wheel size it looks like they will interchange but when you go to the actual parts, wheel assy, base rim, flange and ring they are different part numbers.
Looks like I overshot the production of 8T's, my somewhat questionable source says they ended production in 1957. The 71D only produced 742 units from 1957 to 1959.
serial product index says its a 12 Motor Grader 1957

Info:
https://ccmodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/No12_Spec_Sheet.pdf
https://www.caterpillar.com/en/news/caterpillarNews/h/no-12-motor-grader-celebrates-75-years-of-production.html
https://contractormag.co.nz/classic-machines/motor-grader/
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Wed, Aug 15, 2018 4:02 AM
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Hi, Folks.
As I understand it - and I am open to correction here - we had the 8T series here in DowNunda up until Cat started producing and assembling graders here in about 1957, give or take. Then we had the 21F series which I understand was the local equivalent of the 70-71D, followed by the 17K series which was the local equivalent of the 99E series. Both 21F and 17K series graders were labelled '12E' DowNunda.

I think the imported 8T series graders down here and the locally produced 21Fs had the option of either 9.00x24 tires or 13.00x24 tires on the front. I can't remember ever seeing a Cat #12 or 112 of ANY series fitted with the smaller tires down here.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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