D46U straight blade,D46U cat angle blade,allis chalmers AD4 grader and Khoering 404 dragline. D4C 40A,D4 2T and scraper.
probably need to be a letourneau
I have a related question for the knowledgeable. Could one predict the size of a #20 scraper i.e. something that's the same basic design as a 40 or 60 but intended for a D2, based on a relationship between the D4's weight and hp and the 40 cutting width and bowl size?
I'm just curious if a scaled down version could be made that would actually be a good match for the D2
Neil, there are several different makes of two to four yard scrapers the a D2 will handle. Ashland, Beckley(spelling?) and the LaPlant Choate that I have . I have found several in recent years on Craigs List, just have to keep looking. If someone gave me $10000 I would sell my La plant Choate. The Ashlands and Beckleys usually go from $3000 to $6000. Took me 5 years to find my LaPlant Choate and another year to restore it. the second picture I think is a Beckley
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I have a related question for the knowledgeable. Could one predict the size of a #20 scraper i.e. something that's the same basic design as a 40 or 60 but intended for a D2, based on a relationship between the D4's weight and hp and the 40 cutting width and bowl size?
I'm just curious if a scaled down version could be made that would actually be a good match for the D2
D46U straight blade,D46U cat angle blade,allis chalmers AD4 grader and Khoering 404 dragline. D4C 40A,D4 2T and scraper.
[quote="Neil"]I have a related question for the knowledgeable. Could one predict the size of a #20 scraper i.e. something that's the same basic design as a 40 or 60 but intended for a D2, based on a relationship between the D4's weight and hp and the 40 cutting width and bowl size?
I'm just curious if a scaled down version could be made that would actually be a good match for the D2[/quote]
I have a Murray that is sized for a D2. it is hydraulic but uses a cable to lift the apron. looks to be based on a letourneau.
dose any one know if there are Hp - yards calculation? only info i found was for a LS letourneau witch is 8 yard struck and 11 heaped dose that not seem like a lot for a sixty ? how dose one size a scraper to the cat?
Neil the #40 was Caterpillars first Hyd scarper it never came in a cable control i am not sure if they made a CC for a 4 that was double drum. i only know of the single drum one that letourneau made to run the blade from over head stacked on top of the towing winch.
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I guess a #27 or such could be grafted on to the back of a D2 but it would look cooler if it was a #22 : ) and sized accordingly. Cable control rules!
I reckon the way to go Martin, would be to measure the cutting edge width for the #40, #60, #70, #80, and work out the rough hp/weight of the tractor to the edge width. I think the struck / heaped capacity could also be checked the same way but I think the critical item is the cutting edge width because the tractor needs to be able to pull it with the bowl down. Those other scrapers the guys listed above would be a good sanity check that the calculation came out right.
Chuck and Bursitis: would you fellows be so kind as to measure your cutting edge widths and struck/heaped capacities?
This is an 8 yard struck 12 yard heaped Bucyrus Erie S90 behind my D6 9U and it is all the machine wants by itself to get a 2/3 to 3/4 load (estimated) with a decent cutting edge, not perfect and not shined up yet either. I can push load it pretty good with the D4 but not a 12 yard load (again my estimate) and once loaded it will haul in 3rd and dump/spread in 2nd but a slightly smaller unit would probably be a better fit.
I don't know as much about the 60 but that should give you something to go by at least, I would opt for a smaller scraper as they are easier to load and more fun to operate without being so hard on the tractor. I had to do a head gasket job on mine once I started running it, scraper gives it a real workout.![]()
dose any one know if there are Hp - yards calculation? only info i found was for a LS letourneau witch is 8 yard struck and 11 heaped dose that not seem like a lot for a sixty ? how dose one size a scraper to the cat?
Neil the #40 was Caterpillars first Hyd scarper it never came in a cable control i am not sure if they made a CC for a 4 that was double drum. i only know of the single drum one that letourneau made to run the blade from over head stacked on top of the towing winch.
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