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Proper engine oil for a Sixty?

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Bruce P
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Hi all, I was curious, since a Sixty has no oil filter, would it be better to run a non detergent oil in the engine? I’ve read that the crud settles out of the oil with non detergent rather than being held in suspension.
Is it even worth worrying about or should I just fill her up with 15-40 like everything else?

Thanks in advance

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Sat, May 12, 2018 7:44 PM
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I would pull a side door if a 60 has one and look at the sump, if it is like my d4400 it would have died with the crap that was there. You will have real big tears if you burn out the bearings....WA7OPY
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Sat, May 12, 2018 10:18 PM
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BP: I’ve never owned a 60, I don’t know. I do know that it is near impossible to get non detergent motor oil around here. I am told that HydroTex $ell$ it($pecially ordered of course). I use good old 15w40 Delo oil in everything I own. I wouldn’t think it would matter. Something tells me you will flush the engine and run it so clean, the oil would stay amber!
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Sat, May 12, 2018 10:21 PM
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Reply to juiceman:
BP: I’ve never owned a 60, I don’t know. I do know that it is near impossible to get non detergent motor oil around here. I am told that HydroTex $ell$ it($pecially ordered of course). I use good old 15w40 Delo oil in everything I own. I wouldn’t think it would matter. Something tells me you will flush the engine and run it so clean, the oil would stay amber!
Agreed with wopy and JM - you just need to clean the sump out first, and then after running it a bit, take a sample after it's sit overnight. Regular initial monitoring will enable you to catch any contamination. Did you check with John on what he ran in it and the status of the sump?
I just took my D2's right final apart. It looked pristine looking in the oil fill hole and even after pulling the final cover off to expose the big gear, but right there in the bottom was a pile of sludge. I don't even bother trying to second-guess anymore for stuff that's sit a while - I just disassemble and clean it out. Never found anything that was clean.
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Sat, May 12, 2018 11:16 PM
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Reply to neil:
Agreed with wopy and JM - you just need to clean the sump out first, and then after running it a bit, take a sample after it's sit overnight. Regular initial monitoring will enable you to catch any contamination. Did you check with John on what he ran in it and the status of the sump?
I just took my D2's right final apart. It looked pristine looking in the oil fill hole and even after pulling the final cover off to expose the big gear, but right there in the bottom was a pile of sludge. I don't even bother trying to second-guess anymore for stuff that's sit a while - I just disassemble and clean it out. Never found anything that was clean.
All the "old timers" I grew up with had the opinion to stay away from Detergent Oils in old machines. Several were still farming with Thirty's and a couple were still running Sixty's. Says a lot when they had such long life of the machines considering all other factors.

Detergent Oils have a very bad habit of breaking loose some "crud" that then gets to those places that hurt an engine quickly! ND is getting difficult to find here so Good Luck.

The Thirty I had ran 30W and often a gallon or so of Marvel Mystery Oil with it. It is still running!

I do not believe I would run 10W30 or other multi-viscosity Detergent Oils in the old ones - pre oil filter models especially, very poor at best air cleaner, etc. did not help keep anything clean.

Change the oil, best thing you can do and when it gets dirty, dump it. Cheaper than finding replacement parts or worse, not getting them!

Color of oil is not necessarily the indication of DIRTY oil, know your conditions of operation, load, etc.

That is my opinion, hope it helps -

cts
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Sun, May 13, 2018 12:29 AM
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Reply to ctsnowfighter:
All the "old timers" I grew up with had the opinion to stay away from Detergent Oils in old machines. Several were still farming with Thirty's and a couple were still running Sixty's. Says a lot when they had such long life of the machines considering all other factors.

Detergent Oils have a very bad habit of breaking loose some "crud" that then gets to those places that hurt an engine quickly! ND is getting difficult to find here so Good Luck.

The Thirty I had ran 30W and often a gallon or so of Marvel Mystery Oil with it. It is still running!

I do not believe I would run 10W30 or other multi-viscosity Detergent Oils in the old ones - pre oil filter models especially, very poor at best air cleaner, etc. did not help keep anything clean.

Change the oil, best thing you can do and when it gets dirty, dump it. Cheaper than finding replacement parts or worse, not getting them!

Color of oil is not necessarily the indication of DIRTY oil, know your conditions of operation, load, etc.

That is my opinion, hope it helps -

cts
On a Sixty there is a strainer basket in the sump that can be removed through one of the engine side covers for cleaning and inspection.

I believe for warm weather use straight 40 weight oil is in order.
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Sun, May 13, 2018 2:03 AM
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Reply to Steve A:
On a Sixty there is a strainer basket in the sump that can be removed through one of the engine side covers for cleaning and inspection.

I believe for warm weather use straight 40 weight oil is in order.
I plan on giving the crankcase a good scrub, and check with my local Chevron dealer about non Detergent oil.

I appreciate all the information and input.

Bruce P.
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Sun, May 13, 2018 2:52 AM
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I don't think you have the Tractor Supply chain stores up your way but I was amazed and horrified at the variety of old outdated spec oils they stock. There were several non detergent oils in their Traveler brand.
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I don't think you have the Tractor Supply chain stores up your way but I was amazed and horrified at the variety of old outdated spec oils they stock. There were several non detergent oils in their Traveler brand.
http://petroleumservicecompany.com/coastal-non-detergent-motor-oil-40w-12-1-quart-case/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_LD4q8KB2wIVXYGzCh0xpgoBEAQYASABEgLkQ_D_BwE

Try this site. $25 for 12 quarts of 40 weight non detergent. Good chance you will not be running it in weather requiring any thinner oil. :heh:
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Sun, May 13, 2018 8:20 AM
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I don't think you have the Tractor Supply chain stores up your way but I was amazed and horrified at the variety of old outdated spec oils they stock. There were several non detergent oils in their Traveler brand.


Thanks, I think there might be one of those in Spokane. We have a North 40 outfitters that is a similar type store, they may well have some.

I’ve heard John Deere break in oil is non detergent. Probably cost an arm and leg too.

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Sun, May 13, 2018 9:48 AM
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Reply to Bruce P:


Thanks, I think there might be one of those in Spokane. We have a North 40 outfitters that is a similar type store, they may well have some.

I’ve heard John Deere break in oil is non detergent. Probably cost an arm and leg too.

BP.
Bought some 30W at a Big R store near here. They are a chain of stores based out of Texas. Bottles state not compatible with Modern engines.
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