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Anybody have any experience with Bucyrus Erie machines? I know very little about and have never operated a dragline but have always liked seeing them. I ran across a 15B that looks to be pretty decent and has a Caterpillar D315 engine which would be my first choice for engines. I am somewhat interested in the machine but would like to know what I'm getting into.
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Wed, Aug 16, 2017 9:07 PM
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Grab it. All simple mechanical stuff to make it move. Are you going to be able to make the Nowthen show this weekend. I hope you can.
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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 1:50 AM
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Grab it. All simple mechanical stuff to make it move. Are you going to be able to make the Nowthen show this weekend. I hope you can.


I saw your post about the show. That's the first Iv heard of it. I might have to see if I don't have anything going on this weekend. Otherwise Pioneer Power is coming up and I always make that one. I may also try the WMSTR up in Rollag. I have never been to that one either.

-Jeremy
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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 2:19 AM
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I saw your post about the show. That's the first Iv heard of it. I might have to see if I don't have anything going on this weekend. Otherwise Pioneer Power is coming up and I always make that one. I may also try the WMSTR up in Rollag. I have never been to that one either.

-Jeremy
Thank Goodness someone had the good sense to lower the boom down thereby closing the covers over the hoisting drums. I have seen so many cranes like that ruined because the last operator left the boom in the raised position and the covers were up allowing the rain and snow in on all the drum and mechanisms rusting them into a solid mass. I looked at a Bucyrus 10B locally a couple years ago. The boom was left up and there wasn't a single moving part in the house that wasn't rusted fast. What a shame!
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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 2:48 AM
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Thank Goodness someone had the good sense to lower the boom down thereby closing the covers over the hoisting drums. I have seen so many cranes like that ruined because the last operator left the boom in the raised position and the covers were up allowing the rain and snow in on all the drum and mechanisms rusting them into a solid mass. I looked at a Bucyrus 10B locally a couple years ago. The boom was left up and there wasn't a single moving part in the house that wasn't rusted fast. What a shame!
Poor ole girls been put out to pasture! lol
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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 6:41 AM
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Poor ole girls been put out to pasture! lol
Hi, Seyser.
These were good,solid, reliable machines, simple and pretty easy to work on, although there would be times when you are learning to handle it that you might wish you had an octopus for a co-pilot. Once you get it all sorted out though and establish a rhythm, they are not difficult to operate, just require some muscle power here and there. Proper adjustments will help to reduce that.

if you choose to inspect it with a view to purchase/acquisition, I would suggest getting the engine running and then GENTLY engaging the master clutch to see if anything might be stuck or binding. Once that is achieved, try each individual control, again gently, to see that they all run freely. You don't hafta pull them into full engagement, just enough to check that they free.

There are a good few lube points, zerks and oil cups, and they all deserve proper attention, including 'blackjack' on the slew ring gear and the boom tip and fairlead sheaves.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 8:09 AM
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Hi, Seyser.
These were good,solid, reliable machines, simple and pretty easy to work on, although there would be times when you are learning to handle it that you might wish you had an octopus for a co-pilot. Once you get it all sorted out though and establish a rhythm, they are not difficult to operate, just require some muscle power here and there. Proper adjustments will help to reduce that.

if you choose to inspect it with a view to purchase/acquisition, I would suggest getting the engine running and then GENTLY engaging the master clutch to see if anything might be stuck or binding. Once that is achieved, try each individual control, again gently, to see that they all run freely. You don't hafta pull them into full engagement, just enough to check that they free.

There are a good few lube points, zerks and oil cups, and they all deserve proper attention, including 'blackjack' on the slew ring gear and the boom tip and fairlead sheaves.

Hope this helps.

Just my 0.02.
Nice tidy looking machine and in great shape,seems to be all intact,looks from the pictures that you could have a little trouble with the clutches as they have gone dry and are rusting and will need cleaning up,be careful on start up that they are not engaged and pull the boom over centre,I would buy it but I am too far away.
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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 8:43 AM
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I saw your post about the show. That's the first Iv heard of it. I might have to see if I don't have anything going on this weekend. Otherwise Pioneer Power is coming up and I always make that one. I may also try the WMSTR up in Rollag. I have never been to that one either.

-Jeremy
[quote="seyser"]I saw your post about the show. That's the first Iv heard of it. I might have to see if I don't have anything going on this weekend. Otherwise Pioneer Power is coming up and I always make that one. I may also try the WMSTR up in Rollag. I have never been to that one either.

-Jeremy[/quote]

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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 9:29 AM
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[quote="seyser"]I saw your post about the show. That's the first Iv heard of it. I might have to see if I don't have anything going on this weekend. Otherwise Pioneer Power is coming up and I always make that one. I may also try the WMSTR up in Rollag. I have never been to that one either.

-Jeremy[/quote]

Chapter 3 will be having a meeting on Saturday afternoon during the show. Ask a member when and what time. Guests are welcome.
My only experience was on a 22B, 30B and best of all, a 38B with air! Both the 22 and the 30 were all hand frictions. All three were log loading shovels. the 22 had a dipperstick with tongs, the other two were heelbooms. If I could run them at the age I was then, they must have been pretty bullet proof. They are fun machines to run.
I'm not afraid of hard work; I can lay down beside it anytime and take a nap.
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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 10:05 AM
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My only experience was on a 22B, 30B and best of all, a 38B with air! Both the 22 and the 30 were all hand frictions. All three were log loading shovels. the 22 had a dipperstick with tongs, the other two were heelbooms. If I could run them at the age I was then, they must have been pretty bullet proof. They are fun machines to run.
Dad ran one along with a P&H
I tried to learn at 14 yrs old- those pedals are not meant to stomp on!
Like Pete said -- easy does it.

The operator I was with told me he was going to take my shoes off and heat the pedals with torch, make me less prone to stomping them.
He ran his brakes very loose, just enough to hold an empty bucket.
Swing is tricky to learn, keep the bucket under the boom. Easy to have the boom ahead or behind the load.

As someone said here -- make sure the clutches are not engaged and drawing the cables when you start it - more than one has crumpled a boom, or wrinkled the house by pulling boom over it.

Bucyrus draw works run in oil, a great advantage and they clutches were all manual connected, P&H used brake master cylinders on the levers and slaves on the clutches, always leaking!

Loading the flat track can be a bit tricky, Dad used to throw some pea gravel on the ramps, helped keep it from slipping, days long before the nice Cozad trailers.

Good Luck!
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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 10:21 AM
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Dad ran one along with a P&H
I tried to learn at 14 yrs old- those pedals are not meant to stomp on!
Like Pete said -- easy does it.

The operator I was with told me he was going to take my shoes off and heat the pedals with torch, make me less prone to stomping them.
He ran his brakes very loose, just enough to hold an empty bucket.
Swing is tricky to learn, keep the bucket under the boom. Easy to have the boom ahead or behind the load.

As someone said here -- make sure the clutches are not engaged and drawing the cables when you start it - more than one has crumpled a boom, or wrinkled the house by pulling boom over it.

Bucyrus draw works run in oil, a great advantage and they clutches were all manual connected, P&H used brake master cylinders on the levers and slaves on the clutches, always leaking!

Loading the flat track can be a bit tricky, Dad used to throw some pea gravel on the ramps, helped keep it from slipping, days long before the nice Cozad trailers.

Good Luck!
looks like a pretty straight machine to me. check the boom for twist and cracks but that is an easy fix. check the swing pinion and bull swing gear under the house to make sure it doesn't have a stripped section so the house can't swing. if the swing pinion is wore out but the big gear on the carbody is ok then it can be fixed pretty easy. just about any machine shop can make parts and there are a lot of 15b in salvage too. it is a friction machine so soak all of the sliding collars with atf mixed with acetone before you start it and make sure all of the levers will operate easy. does it have a decent fairlead and drag bucket? running draglines was always my favorite and i still have a koehring 304 that i still run from time to time. my favorite was linkbelt ls78 pipeliner. loading dump trucks was very fun too
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Thu, Aug 17, 2017 10:38 AM
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