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I was amazed to see on the dip stick to check engine oil on D7 while engine is running. We have had the Cat for about a year and have used it a few times with maybe 20 hours. I check the engine oil before starting and it is right at the full mark. I did not pursue reading the dip stick until I saw it was a little low and thought it might tell me what viscosity should be used. Didn't I feel like an idiot when I read the dip stick and how to check it.

The Cat doesn't use any oil either through the exhaust or leaks that I can tell. However it was low so after reading the dip stick I put 2 gallons of oil in it,( started with small amount and increased so not to over fill and ended up with 2 gallons) started and checked and was confused by the reading on the stick. The stick is square and on three sides it was way up the stick above the full mark however on the 4th side of the stick it was slightly below the full mark. I guess my question is; would you go to the lowest solid oil mark on the stick to determine the real oil level? Once I figure out what full is while running I was going to mark the stick while stopped so I can check it both running and stopped.

Any suggestions on knowing when I have it full. Short of any other ideas, I'll drain the oil change the filters and fill it with the 22 quarts it says to hold then check it to see where the truth lies in what is full.

I really need an operators manual so I can get familiar with the Cat if anyone has any suggestions. I'll get the correct serial number to determine year of manufacturing. I really need a schematic of where to find all of the various filler spouts, drain plugs for engine and transmission etc. if any suggestions.

Thanks in advance.
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Mon, Aug 14, 2017 5:14 AM
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Post the serial number for your D-7. The operation and maintenance manuals are easily obtained on eBay. It will be necessary to purchase a parts book for your tractor too. I just picked up both for less than $15.00 each for my 17A D-7 on eBay. The full mark is below the writing on the dipstick.
D-4 7U-43159 with 4S dozer and Cat 40 scraper, D-7 3T-1179 with Cat 7S hydraulic dozer, D-7 17A 13,944, D-8 14A-1160 with Cat 8S cable dozer, Cat 12-99E-4433 Grader. All runners and users.
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Mon, Aug 14, 2017 6:41 AM
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Reply to Paso Bob:
Post the serial number for your D-7. The operation and maintenance manuals are easily obtained on eBay. It will be necessary to purchase a parts book for your tractor too. I just picked up both for less than $15.00 each for my 17A D-7 on eBay. The full mark is below the writing on the dipstick.
The oil should be overfull on dipstick when the motor is't running by 3/4 inch
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Mon, Aug 14, 2017 7:08 AM
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The oil should be overfull on dipstick when the motor is't running by 3/4 inch
Yes, you check with the engine running but NOT right after you start it up. Work it a hour and then park it on a level spot and check the oil then. If you are done with it for the day, let it sit overnight and then you can check it before you start it up. If oil checked right on the full mark the day before, you are good to go to mark it where it is at when it is cold. Some machines have a cold mark and a running mark on them. International dozers is one like that. I always like to check it at noon when I stopped for lunch and again in the evening when I quit. If it was low at the end of the day, I put oil in right away so it was full in the morning. catskinner
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Mon, Aug 14, 2017 8:19 AM
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Yes, you check with the engine running but NOT right after you start it up. Work it a hour and then park it on a level spot and check the oil then. If you are done with it for the day, let it sit overnight and then you can check it before you start it up. If oil checked right on the full mark the day before, you are good to go to mark it where it is at when it is cold. Some machines have a cold mark and a running mark on them. International dozers is one like that. I always like to check it at noon when I stopped for lunch and again in the evening when I quit. If it was low at the end of the day, I put oil in right away so it was full in the morning. catskinner
Thanks guys I will do all as suggested. I'll get the serial number today while at the ranch and post it. I guess once I know what year or model it is I can get the right books for it. I'll also check the oil as you recommend. Thanks a lot.
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Mon, Aug 14, 2017 7:53 PM
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Thanks guys I will do all as suggested. I'll get the serial number today while at the ranch and post it. I guess once I know what year or model it is I can get the right books for it. I'll also check the oil as you recommend. Thanks a lot.
Hi guys;
Well oil issue seems to be resolved as to checking and knowing it is okay. Thanks for the input.

The serial number is post in a photo below it is 3T22986 if I got the right number. It was on the left rear of the frame just below the seat stamped into the frame. The second is an overall picture of the D7. If anyone can tell me which model I have I'll get the manuals ordered for it. Thanks

I have a separate question as to electric start that is on the machine. I'll post that on a separate post so I don't get confused as to what is being talked about. Thank you again.

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Tue, Aug 15, 2017 9:08 PM
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Hi guys;
Well oil issue seems to be resolved as to checking and knowing it is okay. Thanks for the input.

The serial number is post in a photo below it is 3T22986 if I got the right number. It was on the left rear of the frame just below the seat stamped into the frame. The second is an overall picture of the D7. If anyone can tell me which model I have I'll get the manuals ordered for it. Thanks

I have a separate question as to electric start that is on the machine. I'll post that on a separate post so I don't get confused as to what is being talked about. Thank you again.

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Welcome to ACMOC chief. That is a great looking late series 3T D7. Please take the time to locate the books especially the Operation and Maintenance Instructions. There is a lot of information that if you don't know about or follow can be very expensive! I would hate to see such a nice machine abused because of lack of info. There have been so many starting engines destroyed because of improper procedures. Here is a pic of the books you need.
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I have a spare parts book if you need it let me know. I do not have an extra Operation and Maintenance Instructions book but I will try to answer your questions.
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Wed, Aug 16, 2017 4:11 AM
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Welcome to ACMOC chief. That is a great looking late series 3T D7. Please take the time to locate the books especially the Operation and Maintenance Instructions. There is a lot of information that if you don't know about or follow can be very expensive! I would hate to see such a nice machine abused because of lack of info. There have been so many starting engines destroyed because of improper procedures. Here is a pic of the books you need.
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I have a spare parts book if you need it let me know. I do not have an extra Operation and Maintenance Instructions book but I will try to answer your questions.
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Your 3T was built in 1953.
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Wed, Aug 16, 2017 6:25 AM
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Your 3T was built in 1953.
i second the 3/4 above full before starting. thanks for the pic you have your self a very nice looking D7 there.
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Wed, Aug 16, 2017 6:54 AM
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i second the 3/4 above full before starting. thanks for the pic you have your self a very nice looking D7 there.
Thank you all for your help and kind comments about the D7 we are blessed to have.
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Wed, Aug 16, 2017 11:49 AM
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Thank you all for your help and kind comments about the D7 we are blessed to have.
The books I sent the PM about.
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