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Andy.s
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Here are some pictures of a recently completed project which was inspired by seeing a picture of one of a set of 3 D2 tractors converted by perkins engines of Peterborough, England, sometime in the 50's. The original 3 tractors still survive and are located somewhere in Lincolnshire they were fitted with the L4 model engine whereas we have fitted the next generation model of that engine a 4270 as it is direct injection so starts easier plus spares are more readily available and it was sat on the shelf doing nothing.
It has been an interesting and challenging project like machining the D2 backplate to fit the engine and adapt it for electric starting, machining the flywheel so we could still use the D2 clutch arrangement, the list goes on but the end result works well.
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Mon, Jun 5, 2017 3:23 AM
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that looks to be a beautiful job you have done, enjoy the fruits of your labours!
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Mon, Jun 5, 2017 3:38 AM
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Reply to rmyram:
that looks to be a beautiful job you have done, enjoy the fruits of your labours!
Andy, that's cool to me for two reasons in addition to what you've accomplished (well done!): Cat owns Perkins engines, and that emblem on the radiator reminds me of my great-uncle's E29 Fordson tractors (one wheel and one County) that had P6 engines in them
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Mon, Jun 5, 2017 4:07 AM
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Andy, that's cool to me for two reasons in addition to what you've accomplished (well done!): Cat owns Perkins engines, and that emblem on the radiator reminds me of my great-uncle's E29 Fordson tractors (one wheel and one County) that had P6 engines in them
Top job I reckon and despite what a lot of die hard Cat people will say or think the Perkins is much better motor in this size than a Cat ever was
thanks for sharing


Paul
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Mon, Jun 5, 2017 6:58 AM
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Reply to mrsmackpaul:
Top job I reckon and despite what a lot of die hard Cat people will say or think the Perkins is much better motor in this size than a Cat ever was
thanks for sharing


Paul
That is well done. What is the HP and torque compared to the Cat engine it replaced? Thanks Jim
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Mon, Jun 5, 2017 8:46 AM
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Very nicely done!

I bought a 922b CAT loader that the previous owner had installed a Perkins in. Not sure what the difficulty was, but he had given up and removed all the Perkins bits and I got all the CAT stuff including the headless D320 with a bad crankshaft. It got a D320 industrial and ran a while about 10 years ago. Steering went out and it sat until I am reviving it here lately. So I guess it will have been brought back from the weeds two or three times now!
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
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Mon, Jun 5, 2017 9:34 AM
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Very nicely done!

I bought a 922b CAT loader that the previous owner had installed a Perkins in. Not sure what the difficulty was, but he had given up and removed all the Perkins bits and I got all the CAT stuff including the headless D320 with a bad crankshaft. It got a D320 industrial and ran a while about 10 years ago. Steering went out and it sat until I am reviving it here lately. So I guess it will have been brought back from the weeds two or three times now!
Great conversion!

Those 3 main-bearing engines were prone to breaking crankshafts when they over revved... By allowing running the old MF165/265/ series tractor downhill and not slowing them down...

Perkins engines is now owned by Cat AFAIK?

That D2 will now be quite perky with all those extra UK-'orses under her bonnet...

The big deal with any Perkins engine was the cost of overhauls: Cheap.

During the late 70's and early 80's under the threatening UN sanctions, an engine manufacturing plant was built here in Atlantis, (near Cape Town), South Africa. Engines were manufactured under license from Perkins and Daimler-Benz, and the engines were referred to as ADE engines (Atlantis Diesel Engines).


We had a Saxby forklift (French made) with a 3-cyl P-144 Perkins engine. We bought the forklift as scrap, and new that we'd have to overhaul the engine soon. Well, long story short, in 1983 the cost of a complete overhaul, with new cyl-head included, worked out to ZARand 1800.00, (equiv of about US$600.00 in those days) and we used only ADE spare parts in it.

The production stopped some time in the early '90s, and the plant carried on manufacturing spare parts for the Perkins and Daimler-Benz engines.
Somerset West, Cape Town
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Mon, Jun 5, 2017 8:17 PM
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Great conversion!

Those 3 main-bearing engines were prone to breaking crankshafts when they over revved... By allowing running the old MF165/265/ series tractor downhill and not slowing them down...

Perkins engines is now owned by Cat AFAIK?

That D2 will now be quite perky with all those extra UK-'orses under her bonnet...

The big deal with any Perkins engine was the cost of overhauls: Cheap.

During the late 70's and early 80's under the threatening UN sanctions, an engine manufacturing plant was built here in Atlantis, (near Cape Town), South Africa. Engines were manufactured under license from Perkins and Daimler-Benz, and the engines were referred to as ADE engines (Atlantis Diesel Engines).


We had a Saxby forklift (French made) with a 3-cyl P-144 Perkins engine. We bought the forklift as scrap, and new that we'd have to overhaul the engine soon. Well, long story short, in 1983 the cost of a complete overhaul, with new cyl-head included, worked out to ZARand 1800.00, (equiv of about US$600.00 in those days) and we used only ADE spare parts in it.

The production stopped some time in the early '90s, and the plant carried on manufacturing spare parts for the Perkins and Daimler-Benz engines.
Nice job, very well done. I thought a lot about doing the same thing to a IH TD 6. The BTD 6's (British IH)came with a Perkins so it has been done. The Perkies are great dependable engines, I am not a big fan of CAV injection or fuel system but they go a long time and they don't have the shock ring issues like the Roosa Master. I have also considered the John Deere 276 engine from the 2630 and 2640 as a candidate for repower, these are great engines as well and everything is SAE. Congrats on your conversion, that yellow is so bright you gotta wear shades :cool2: Tad
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Tue, Jun 6, 2017 1:12 AM
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That is well done. What is the HP and torque compared to the Cat engine it replaced? Thanks Jim
Hi There Tractor Doctor

not sure what the torque output is but the hp is around 60 as far as I can tell from searching around

Andy
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Tue, Jun 6, 2017 3:24 AM
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Hi There Tractor Doctor

not sure what the torque output is but the hp is around 60 as far as I can tell from searching around

Andy
Hi Andy

Great job, well done.
Makes us want to get started on our 22!

Trish
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Tue, Jun 6, 2017 3:34 AM
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Hi Andy

Great job, well done.
Makes us want to get started on our 22!

Trish
Hello Trish

Couple of pictures when we bought it 6 years ago to spur you on

Regards

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