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D4D 22c Radiator flush.

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Antifreeze in the tractor shows a lot of rust so will drain and refill with new antifreeze. My question is that when I refill with water and run a while before putting in the new should I use a "cleaner" of some kind. I don't want anything to abrasive that would damage the core. This is an older tractor and TLC is really needed so it keeps running without a lot of expense. Unit doesn't heat, the operating temp is where it should be just a rust problem in the coolant. Thanks.
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Sat, Jan 28, 2017 9:05 PM
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I would run a flush before refilling with a good coolant. Should be no danger of damaging anything. The flush is achemical treatment, not abrasive.
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Sun, Jan 29, 2017 1:21 AM
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Reply to ccjersey:
I would run a flush before refilling with a good coolant. Should be no danger of damaging anything. The flush is achemical treatment, not abrasive.
I used the flushing chemical Cat was selling 15 years ago on tractor a bit older than your machine( D6 9u )and few months later had problems with the rubber seals (o rings ) on the pre combustion chambers leaking water. Never had that problem before or after so I think there was a connection. But o rings are easy to replace and cheap. I believe I left it in the system a hour or 2 longer than directions. As I recall you need to work machine to make it circulate and my hour job turned out longer than expected. Also very probable the o rings that went bad were not a Cat part.


So follow instructions closely if you us a flushing agent.
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Sun, Jan 29, 2017 1:57 AM
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I also had a problem with a D69U leaking after cleaning, but in my case, I had flushed the block out by running plain water in through the drain hole to flush up through the radiator while I had the top tank off rodding the core put. I apparently washed enough sludge out at the base of a couple sleeves that when I refilled it, water was running past the old o-rings at the bottom of the sleeves. A good dose of stop leak stopped the leak and I was able to use the tractor instead of overhauling it.

Most radiator flushes are pretty mild stuff these days. Most are some kind of citric acid treatment, but some are still a strong alkali that will need to be used with care. I had used a pint of muriatic acid in the D6 several years before when it first began running hot occasionally. That treatment did little to nothing for the overheating and I saw why when I took the top tank off later. Most of the flues in the radiator core were plugged. The chemical treatment could not help what it could not reach.
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Sun, Jan 29, 2017 2:23 AM
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If its not running hot I would just refill it with plain water give it a run up to temp so the stat opens , let it cool and drain and refill with 50/50 water antifreeze mix , just my 2 cents ..
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Sun, Jan 29, 2017 4:09 AM
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I also had a problem with a D69U leaking after cleaning, but in my case, I had flushed the block out by running plain water in through the drain hole to flush up through the radiator while I had the top tank off rodding the core put. I apparently washed enough sludge out at the base of a couple sleeves that when I refilled it, water was running past the old o-rings at the bottom of the sleeves. A good dose of stop leak stopped the leak and I was able to use the tractor instead of overhauling it.

Most radiator flushes are pretty mild stuff these days. Most are some kind of citric acid treatment, but some are still a strong alkali that will need to be used with care. I had used a pint of muriatic acid in the D6 several years before when it first began running hot occasionally. That treatment did little to nothing for the overheating and I saw why when I took the top tank off later. Most of the flues in the radiator core were plugged. The chemical treatment could not help what it could not reach.
Just flush it with water. If it's operating normally, don't chance your luck.
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Sun, Jan 29, 2017 7:41 AM
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Reply to neil:
Just flush it with water. If it's operating normally, don't chance your luck.
I haven't heard of many good results coming from a chemical flush. I'd be inclined to open the drain and keep a hose running into the radiator while running until the water comes clean. Then fill with name brand antifreeze and rust preventative.
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