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old-iron-habit
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Don't remember if I posted pictures or not but a year ago a neighbor up the trail a few miles buried his 200 Komatsu excavator. It sunk on the counterweight so bad the engine lost oil pressure. Took them a few days to freeze it up and get it dug out with another machine. Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago. Well he was headed out to drain a ditch he had plugged to dry up some land he had cleared and he decided to blade the woods road first. He slid his newer high track D6N into the 7 foot deep ditch. Scared sh*tless he never got it shut off as the engine went under. As he can't swim he panicked and realized the machine was not running when he came to his senses. The water was up with in 2 inches of flowing over the front of the seat. The engine was under water. They drained the ditch, and using the excavator, a D5, and a Komatsu D65(?) as anchors they pulled it out with a large rotator wrecker rigged with a six part line on the main line. They drug it into the shop and cleaned it up and changed all fluids. They found no water in the internals of the engine. Cat told him that it should not be run without tearing it down. Cat estimated $40,000 to $50,000 for the work needed to be reasonably sure there would be no problems. He decided to run it and so far 60 hours later it is running fine. Is it possible that it starved on air before water got thru the air filter elements? This is a retired fellow that turned his roofing company over to his son a few years ago and knowing that the Brinks truck won't follow him to the cemetery likes big toys. I can hardly wait for next year. What do you guys think of the possibly of him getting many hours without major issues?
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Sat, Jan 14, 2017 9:34 AM
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Not sure how much computer stuff on that model. Electrical shorting out in water can cause big trouble. As far as the mechanical goes if the engine didn't hydraulic and it is running normal it is a matter of getting that last moisture boiled out. Put it to work pushing and get everything running good and hot. You will boil any moisture out that didn't drain when all the fluids were changed. Many cats have went for a swim and carried on no problem. B
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Sat, Jan 14, 2017 9:46 AM
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Reply to Pioneernorth:
Not sure how much computer stuff on that model. Electrical shorting out in water can cause big trouble. As far as the mechanical goes if the engine didn't hydraulic and it is running normal it is a matter of getting that last moisture boiled out. Put it to work pushing and get everything running good and hot. You will boil any moisture out that didn't drain when all the fluids were changed. Many cats have went for a swim and carried on no problem. B
My son works for Const. Co that at the time of a HUGE rain in Great Bend, KS., they ending up with a Cat rubber tired loader being under water. It was not running, just sitting there in a sand pit when the rain hit. Filled the pit up to overflowing. Pumped the water down to where they could hook onto it and pulled it out. Cleaned out all filters and oil compartments and replaced with new oil and fired it up. I couldn't believe it when my son told me that story. That was many years ago. I never did hear of having a problem with it from being under water. catskinner
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Sat, Jan 14, 2017 10:46 AM
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My son works for Const. Co that at the time of a HUGE rain in Great Bend, KS., they ending up with a Cat rubber tired loader being under water. It was not running, just sitting there in a sand pit when the rain hit. Filled the pit up to overflowing. Pumped the water down to where they could hook onto it and pulled it out. Cleaned out all filters and oil compartments and replaced with new oil and fired it up. I couldn't believe it when my son told me that story. That was many years ago. I never did hear of having a problem with it from being under water. catskinner
You state there was no water in the engine, so I see no reason why mechanically the engine would be damaged. More likely it shut down due to electronic function failure due to water, possibly the only area that may give trouble will be in the electrical/computer areas.
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Sat, Jan 14, 2017 11:10 AM
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You state there was no water in the engine, so I see no reason why mechanically the engine would be damaged. More likely it shut down due to electronic function failure due to water, possibly the only area that may give trouble will be in the electrical/computer areas.
Agree with Wombat, he's lucky it quit. I assume he checked the other compartments too, there must be a trans breather under the tank somewhere. The guy needs to take up golf or equivalent.
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Sat, Jan 14, 2017 10:59 PM
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Agree with Wombat, he's lucky it quit. I assume he checked the other compartments too, there must be a trans breather under the tank somewhere. The guy needs to take up golf or equivalent.


They drained and changed the fluids in all the compartments.

This guy don't golf. However about 3 to 4 ywars ago he bought a ultralight airplane without his wifes knowledge and proceeded to try to teach himself to fly. After a month of flying he was landing in his field and hit a big round hay bale ended up hanging upside down in the airplane for about three hours with gas dripping on him and the ignition still on. A neighbor finally seen what they thought was a weather balloon or something and went to see and found him mostly unconscious. He spent 3 weeks in the hospital with as he explains it, "an armed guard at the door to keep his wife from killing him".

Some of the things he does since retiring makes you wonder, but he was a smart, very successful businessman. When someone in the area get hurt or otherwise is in a bad way he is among the first to help out with whatever it takes.
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They drained and changed the fluids in all the compartments.

This guy don't golf. However about 3 to 4 ywars ago he bought a ultralight airplane without his wifes knowledge and proceeded to try to teach himself to fly. After a month of flying he was landing in his field and hit a big round hay bale ended up hanging upside down in the airplane for about three hours with gas dripping on him and the ignition still on. A neighbor finally seen what they thought was a weather balloon or something and went to see and found him mostly unconscious. He spent 3 weeks in the hospital with as he explains it, "an armed guard at the door to keep his wife from killing him".

Some of the things he does since retiring makes you wonder, but he was a smart, very successful businessman. When someone in the area get hurt or otherwise is in a bad way he is among the first to help out with whatever it takes.
Keep a real close eye on all the fluids to see if there is any evidence of water (emulsion) showing up. I would even recommend changing all the fluids again after a few hours to make sure there is no problems. Oil is a helluvalot cheaper than repairs!
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Sun, Jan 15, 2017 1:17 AM
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Keep a real close eye on all the fluids to see if there is any evidence of water (emulsion) showing up. I would even recommend changing all the fluids again after a few hours to make sure there is no problems. Oil is a helluvalot cheaper than repairs!
Hi, O-I-H.
This guy may have been a 'smart businessman' but. like you said, some of the things he does.................................................................... Wunn wundaz.

'Owinell do yer 'slide' a D6N off a FLAT road into a 7-foot deep drain?

I can't help thinking this guy needs a minder or his retirement could be cut short - - - dramatically.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Jan 15, 2017 4:27 AM
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Hi, O-I-H.
This guy may have been a 'smart businessman' but. like you said, some of the things he does.................................................................... Wunn wundaz.

'Owinell do yer 'slide' a D6N off a FLAT road into a 7-foot deep drain?

I can't help thinking this guy needs a minder or his retirement could be cut short - - - dramatically.

Just my 0.02.
Here is my thinking,

I am fully aware that there are some people that MAY be good and somethng, like this guy MAY have been a good businessman, but have absolutely NO common sense OR mechanical aptitude what-so-ever. Now he might have it all but was simply not thinking that day OR just getting too OLD!
Anyway, that is my thinking.

Now, were was that sandwich I just made for the wife, oh, wait, she wanted fried eggs and bacon... HA HA. (just remember that I am 74 now...) 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 🤘
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Sun, Jan 15, 2017 5:34 AM
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Here is my thinking,

I am fully aware that there are some people that MAY be good and somethng, like this guy MAY have been a good businessman, but have absolutely NO common sense OR mechanical aptitude what-so-ever. Now he might have it all but was simply not thinking that day OR just getting too OLD!
Anyway, that is my thinking.

Now, were was that sandwich I just made for the wife, oh, wait, she wanted fried eggs and bacon... HA HA. (just remember that I am 74 now...) 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 😖mile: 🤘
I saw more power to the man ! My guess he would be good one to enjoy an adult beverage with !
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Fri, Jan 20, 2017 7:48 AM
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I saw more power to the man ! My guess he would be good one to enjoy an adult beverage with !


He is a riot to talk to. Like the time his neighbors elderly dog got put down by a vet when it was no longer capable of tending to itself. The owner and his wife went to Hawaii to ease the pain and a couple days later there son-in-law, whom was picking up their mail called them about a summons sworn out by the local humane society. They accused him of killing his dog so they could go on vacation and they were to contact them upon there return home. They, in a tizzy, cut their vacation short and returned home. The humane sociaty knew nothing of what they were talking about when they went to meet with them. Of course it was a hoax written by the person this post is about. He never told them it was him for over a year, as he feared for his life after that one blew up. He had expected a phone call from them when they heard about the letter, but they were so wound up they never called. He has not had a drink for over 30 years. Good thing, he was really unstable then.
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Fri, Jan 20, 2017 8:44 PM
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