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17 years 8 months ago #1386 by GA D8 2U
I have a D8 2u that I want to change the oil in the transmission and final drives. What is the correct weight oil to use for the transmission and for the final drives?

As for the engine, I have been told that a 40w was always used in the engine. I plan to change this oil also.

The next time I have the D8 out of the barn I will take some pictures to post of the tractor and also of the pull scraper that I have, which I need some help on.

If climate is a factor in what weight oil, I live in west central Georgia. A cold day to work outside around here is temps in the low 20s.

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17 years 8 months ago #1389 by dave morgan
Replied by dave morgan on topic lube in D8
this will get you close
Rotella 15W40 in engine, can be ran in transmission too if it has a filter and lube pump to supply oil to all gears and bearings.

Final drive has no lube pump or filter, and most run 50W engine oil there...we are thinking of changing to synthetic in the final drives...in the old days they ran 90W in the finals, but most books have changed that by now.

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17 years 8 months ago #1499 by TracksNIowa
Replied by TracksNIowa on topic final and trans oil
I run 140 w green mineral oil in my old cats. They only get run in the spring summer and early fall. the 140w leaks less out of bad seals than the 90w. My oil supplier said this is the best oil for me to use bc the new hp lubes could potentially damage brass and bronze that may be in the bearings. the degergents in the new hp lubes will also make leaks worse. The green mineral oil is detergent free and therefore does not break down or become acetic. Everyone has different ideas but i hope this helps you some.
Beau nelson

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17 years 8 months ago #1507 by Aaron
Replied by Aaron on topic Another gear oil question
30 or 40 wt in the engine, do not use a multi vis oil in these old engines, 90 wt in the trans and finals, unless you have a little seepage then I would use the 140 in the finals.

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17 years 8 months ago #1508 by D4Jim
Replied by D4Jim on topic Engine multi-vis oil
I have used 15W-40 in the D4 and 112 (both are 315 engines) for many, many years and have never had any problems. It keeps them squeaky clean too!! I use the same engine oil in them that I use in my Green machines!! For tranny and finals I use 90W. I never run them below 0 degrees F as it is too cold anyway!!

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17 years 8 months ago #1511 by GA D8 2U
Replied by GA D8 2U on topic Another gear oil question
Thanks everybody for the info.

After reading some of the respondes I have another question. I assumed what is in the trans right now is maybe 90w. The trans does have a filter. Would a 90w oil flow okay thru this filter with out crushing it?

If the weather is good New Years day I plan to do an oil change and get some pictures.

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17 years 8 months ago #1523 by trucker1
Replied by trucker1 on topic Another gear oil question
you shouldn't have any problem with gear oil running thru a filter. The rear axle in my freightliner truck (front one ) has a filter mounted on it and it is the same filter chevrolet uses for an oil filter on their engines. I am running 140 wt and change the filter every 50 thousand miles or so.

George

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17 years 8 months ago #1530 by Old Magnet
Either 90wt for average ambient temperatures or 140wt in hot climates is correct.

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17 years 8 months ago #1537 by Toolbox
Replied by Toolbox on topic Another gear oil question

30 or 40 wt in the engine, do not use a multi vis oil in these old engines, 90 wt in the trans and finals, unless you have a little seepage then I would use the 140 in the finals.


I have a pamphlet distributed by Caterpillar from the 50's on service and care of D2's-D8's in a illustrated cartoon format and it specifically says not to use a straight weight oil in the engines as it needs the additives to remove carbon and other deposits. The general rule of thumb I was always told was if the engine has a full flow filter, ie from the pump directly to the filter, use a multi-grade oil as the particles will stay in suspension and be trapped in the filter. If the engine does not have a filter, like some old gas tractors, use straight weight so the particles can settle out and be drained with oil.

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17 years 8 months ago #1540 by tomseabee
Replied by tomseabee on topic Another gear oil question
I'm a little confused. I always understood the issue with the filter fitted engines was detergent in the oil to keep particles in suspension so the filter can do it's thing. I thought the multi viscosity was developed to allow a greater range of operating temps??? :confused:

Happy new year to all

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