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I read through all the Old Cat Yellow threads, and I don't seem to have a definitive answer on a correct paint solution.

Has anyone used Krylon's version of Old Cat Yellow? http://www.tcpglobal.com/KRY1819.html#.VyIxaU32Zus

If so, how does it compare to the Rust-Oleum Old Cat Yellow? (Which I have read is way off and not a match).
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 10:54 PM
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I have been using valspar transport yellow-which i find is a real good match--and it seems to be very durable
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 10:59 PM
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Reply to dpendzic:
I have been using valspar transport yellow-which i find is a real good match--and it seems to be very durable
I guess my next question is, are my 1968 D6C and 1978 225 both supposed to be Old Cat Yellow?
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Thu, Apr 28, 2016 11:09 PM
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Reply to ETD66SS:
I guess my next question is, are my 1968 D6C and 1978 225 both supposed to be Old Cat Yellow?


I can't answer your question directly, but as far as I'm concerned, ALL Cats should be old Cat yellow.

Just my opinion, it's worth what you paid for it.

BP
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Fri, Apr 29, 2016 12:25 AM
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Reply to Bruce P:


I can't answer your question directly, but as far as I'm concerned, ALL Cats should be old Cat yellow.

Just my opinion, it's worth what you paid for it.

BP
Cat Paint Color Change
Cats were painted Hiway Yellow from Dec 7, 1931 to June 1979. From June 1979, the change to the "new" Caterpillar Yellow was introduced gradually - unlike the original change from Gray to Hiway Yellow - which was introduced across the entire line on one specific day. You'd need to find the build date of your tractor to get some idea - and even then, you may have a "transition" tractor.
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Fri, Apr 29, 2016 12:36 AM
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Cat Paint Color Change
Cats were painted Hiway Yellow from Dec 7, 1931 to June 1979. From June 1979, the change to the "new" Caterpillar Yellow was introduced gradually - unlike the original change from Gray to Hiway Yellow - which was introduced across the entire line on one specific day. You'd need to find the build date of your tractor to get some idea - and even then, you may have a "transition" tractor.
As I have been working almost every part of my D2, I've been painting as I go. I chose Valspar Transport Yellow also, because I like it. Might not be correct, I'm not trying to build a show piece, just a yellow bulldozer to call my own. One thing I've learned for sure. Spend the extra few dollars and use the add in hardener. The paint flows out a lot better, drys much faster, and is more durable. Here is a couple of pictures as I was putting the head back on in varying light conditions.

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Sun, May 1, 2016 8:54 AM
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Reply to Uncle Rich:
As I have been working almost every part of my D2, I've been painting as I go. I chose Valspar Transport Yellow also, because I like it. Might not be correct, I'm not trying to build a show piece, just a yellow bulldozer to call my own. One thing I've learned for sure. Spend the extra few dollars and use the add in hardener. The paint flows out a lot better, drys much faster, and is more durable. Here is a couple of pictures as I was putting the head back on in varying light conditions.

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Looks pretty good to me Uncle Rich!

Thanks

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Sun, May 1, 2016 8:59 AM
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Reply to Bruce P:
Looks pretty good to me Uncle Rich!

Thanks

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Is this the right color? http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/MSRGALIM110OY/MSRGALIM110OY

I ordered 2 cans of this to try: http://www.walmart.com/ip/KRYLON-A01321000-Spray-Paint-Old-Caterpillar-Yellow/48068861

I'll see if I can find a spot on my 225 that has been hidden from the sun and do a comparison.
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Sun, May 1, 2016 9:21 AM
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Is this the right color? http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/MSRGALIM110OY/MSRGALIM110OY

I ordered 2 cans of this to try: http://www.walmart.com/ip/KRYLON-A01321000-Spray-Paint-Old-Caterpillar-Yellow/48068861

I'll see if I can find a spot on my 225 that has been hidden from the sun and do a comparison.
Ok, so I got in my order of the Krylon version of Old CAT Yellow.

So I painted a few parts for my 225 with it, here is an example of the color: http://i.imgur.com/JYpLzzz.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7lSAmjn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TIdsjEY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FpubhRu.jpg

The bad part about viewing the pictures on a computer, is everyone's monitor is different, so the colors are different.

In this picture, I held up the same part I took a picture of next to my monitor, and took another picture: http://i.imgur.com/Wb5fWiE.jpg

You can see the difference in the shade. My monitor makes the yellow look much brighter/lighter than it is in reality.

To me, this CAT yellow doesn't look like the old color, but the new one???

Here is a bunch of different yellow's I am going to try: http://i.imgur.com/53d66xD.jpg I need to find a part from my 225 that has been hidden form the sun for comparison.
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Sat, May 7, 2016 6:21 AM
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Ok, so I got in my order of the Krylon version of Old CAT Yellow.

So I painted a few parts for my 225 with it, here is an example of the color: http://i.imgur.com/JYpLzzz.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7lSAmjn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TIdsjEY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FpubhRu.jpg

The bad part about viewing the pictures on a computer, is everyone's monitor is different, so the colors are different.

In this picture, I held up the same part I took a picture of next to my monitor, and took another picture: http://i.imgur.com/Wb5fWiE.jpg

You can see the difference in the shade. My monitor makes the yellow look much brighter/lighter than it is in reality.

To me, this CAT yellow doesn't look like the old color, but the new one???

Here is a bunch of different yellow's I am going to try: http://i.imgur.com/53d66xD.jpg I need to find a part from my 225 that has been hidden form the sun for comparison.
My parts guy had mentioned that Valspar was the last paint supplier for Caterpillar supplying them with the exact paint. They could still order it a couple years ago by the pallet approx 144 gallons if i remember right per pallet. If a dealer had a large enough demand they would order a full pallet depending on the dealers demand.

Recently Caterpillar changed to Sherwin Williams who refused to produce the old paint color. Caterpillar pushed for them to still make it, only to hear the huge amount they had to purchase, which was said was an amazing amount more than Valspar required to order.

A good Valspar paint supplier might be best to match the old paint. Or do a simple Google search and you may find other brands out there "said" to be the same color.

In my area the good paint stores can use a computer to scan a paint sample like sold in the ACMOC store or a freshly painted part to evaluate the color and the mixture needed to match the paint pretty darn close. If not spot on they usually can adjust the paint color to meet your needs.
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Sat, May 7, 2016 11:18 AM
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My parts guy had mentioned that Valspar was the last paint supplier for Caterpillar supplying them with the exact paint. They could still order it a couple years ago by the pallet approx 144 gallons if i remember right per pallet. If a dealer had a large enough demand they would order a full pallet depending on the dealers demand.

Recently Caterpillar changed to Sherwin Williams who refused to produce the old paint color. Caterpillar pushed for them to still make it, only to hear the huge amount they had to purchase, which was said was an amazing amount more than Valspar required to order.

A good Valspar paint supplier might be best to match the old paint. Or do a simple Google search and you may find other brands out there "said" to be the same color.

In my area the good paint stores can use a computer to scan a paint sample like sold in the ACMOC store or a freshly painted part to evaluate the color and the mixture needed to match the paint pretty darn close. If not spot on they usually can adjust the paint color to meet your needs.
You can get a paint chip from the ACMOC store for your paint supplier to match. What is important is to know what yellow is correct for your year of manufacture. The original Highway Yellow was a lead based paint and a reasonably bright yellow. When Caterpillar went to unleaded paint it had more of a brown yellow in comparison, this in Australia is known as Old Cat yellow verse the earlier Highway yellow. The current yellow is Cat use now is different again.
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