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Hello out there in Cat Land. I need advice on a 120 89G grader; was wondering of pros/cons of this model; it is a 1351 serial number I believe. Any help on this would be appreciated. I have never owned or operated a blade before; I as usual, am looking to buy one for light use around our properties and add something to the toy chest. After all, it's been almost a month since I've bought another CAT! Lol! Thanks in advance, and Happy New Year to all! "Juiceman"
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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 7:22 AM
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Hi, Juiceman.
You could pick a LOTTTT worse machine with which to do some light grading. It won't have quite the weight and grunt of Glen's 99E but not far short of it. If the controls are a little 'ruff', don't let that put you off 'cos there IS adjustment on them which will help cure a lot of 'ills'.

If the general condition appears reasonable, if it handles O.K. and the 'price is right', it would be well worth considering. If you have any questions about the controls, there is a bit of information in this thread:

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?20409-Cat-12-Graders-Pre-G-series

If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.

Here is a link to the Ritchiewiki page on them:

http://www.ritchiewiki.com/wiki/index.php/Caterpillar_120_Motor_Grader

Some photos would help to give a better assessment (Photo-hungry vultures.) as would your general impressions of the machine.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 7:41 AM
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Hi, Juiceman.
You could pick a LOTTTT worse machine with which to do some light grading. It won't have quite the weight and grunt of Glen's 99E but not far short of it. If the controls are a little 'ruff', don't let that put you off 'cos there IS adjustment on them which will help cure a lot of 'ills'.

If the general condition appears reasonable, if it handles O.K. and the 'price is right', it would be well worth considering. If you have any questions about the controls, there is a bit of information in this thread:

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?20409-Cat-12-Graders-Pre-G-series

If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.

Here is a link to the Ritchiewiki page on them:

http://www.ritchiewiki.com/wiki/index.php/Caterpillar_120_Motor_Grader

Some photos would help to give a better assessment (Photo-hungry vultures.) as would your general impressions of the machine.

Just my 0.02.
1966 model with D333A (4-1/2" bore)
Direct Drive 115 hp, oil clutch
Weighs about 23,700 lbs
Only 2,314 units produced from 1965-1968
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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 7:45 AM
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1966 model with D333A (4-1/2" bore)
Direct Drive 115 hp, oil clutch
Weighs about 23,700 lbs
Only 2,314 units produced from 1965-1968
OM,

We had Cat 112s in Viet Nam. Were they built before these 120s? It sound like these 120s were about the same size. We rented one of them for a small job one time but that is the only one I ever saw.

Jan
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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 8:36 AM
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OM,

We had Cat 112s in Viet Nam. Were they built before these 120s? It sound like these 120s were about the same size. We rented one of them for a small job one time but that is the only one I ever saw.

Jan
Hey Juiceman,

You've got the Yellow Fever Cat Bug... It's addictive. That's all there is too it!!! Your out of control... Hey, if you want me to take the 89g for a while, I'll be happy to play with it for you... Where are the pictures?
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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 8:42 AM
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Hey Juiceman,

You've got the Yellow Fever Cat Bug... It's addictive. That's all there is too it!!! Your out of control... Hey, if you want me to take the 89g for a while, I'll be happy to play with it for you... Where are the pictures?
Thanks for the quick replies fellers! This purchase might require a bit more help from this forum....
I don't usually run into too many blades around here that are newer than 8T and 9T era. This unit is pretty clean and does not appear to be "goobered" with any welds or patchwork; turntable, rippers, edges etc. all look good and no obvious leaks. It is missing a couple of battery box panels and it has a recent paint job.
Glad I received clarification about specs etc. What frustrates me is it seems like every grader I have inspected does not have functioning brakes! This one no exception.
I am told this unit has hydraulic power for the controls instead of knuckbuster?
I am wondering if I should look for a power shift machine instead of gear drive....
Help me here, I am making myself confused! Lol.
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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 10:30 AM
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Hey Juiceman,

You've got the Yellow Fever Cat Bug... It's addictive. That's all there is too it!!! Your out of control... Hey, if you want me to take the 89g for a while, I'll be happy to play with it for you... Where are the pictures?
The 112's were 4-cylinder machines up until 89J's in 1969. A couple of thousand pounds lighter but still very similar to the 6-cylinder machines.
The 120 may have improved multiple disc clutch controls but I don't believe they became full hydraulic control until about 1975 on some machines.
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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 10:32 AM
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The 112's were 4-cylinder machines up until 89J's in 1969. A couple of thousand pounds lighter but still very similar to the 6-cylinder machines.
The 120 may have improved multiple disc clutch controls but I don't believe they became full hydraulic control until about 1975 on some machines.
Hey JuiceMan,

I wouldn't worry about a power shift. It sounds like a good blade. On the 80c blade I just bought, I went to Napa, they had the brake lines in stock that were rotted. I replaced them, added fluid, pumped them up and bled them and they worked great.

I think the 89g still had knuckle busters. It may have hydraulic sliding moldboard, but if I'm not mistaken it should still be a knuckle buster.
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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 10:55 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
The 112's were 4-cylinder machines up until 89J's in 1969. A couple of thousand pounds lighter but still very similar to the 6-cylinder machines.
The 120 may have improved multiple disc clutch controls but I don't believe they became full hydraulic control until about 1975 on some machines.
Hi, Juiceman.
If it is what the 89G serial # says it is, it will be stick-shift and 'knucklebuster'. That is why I posted the second link in my earlier post, 'cos it has the 'recipe' for dealing with many/most of the issues that cause one of these machine to be 'bust knuckles'. They DON'T hafta be that way if the maintenance is kept up to them.

Some of them were fitted with a hydraulic system that allowed for hydraulic side shifting on the blade through the circle, sometimes known as a 'powerblade'.

Brakes: You may find that this is simply a matter of adjustment. Many people had no idea how to adjust the brakes properly. It wasn't just a simple trick of adjusting the usual adjuster mechanism. To do it properly, you had to adjust the anchors on the other end of each brake shoe and then adjust the adjusters. If you are real lucky, O.M. or somebody else may have a manual for them or for the equivalent #12 that gives this procedure.

If you are only looking for a part-time machine to do a few hours here and there, this one sounds like it might be hard to beat. 'Powershift' would be easier but not by enough to really matter. In fact, for really delicate work a stick-shift machine is often every bit as good as a 'powershift' machine 'cos the foot clutch is often more controllable than the 'inching pedal' in a 'powershift machine.

Hope this helps. I would also suggest having a chat with Glen 'cos he has a bit of experience with the older Cat 12s. (I'll dob him in. LOL.)

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 11:01 AM
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Hey JuiceMan,

I wouldn't worry about a power shift. It sounds like a good blade. On the 80c blade I just bought, I went to Napa, they had the brake lines in stock that were rotted. I replaced them, added fluid, pumped them up and bled them and they worked great.

I think the 89g still had knuckle busters. It may have hydraulic sliding moldboard, but if I'm not mistaken it should still be a knuckle buster.
Wow! So far you guys seem much more believable than the seller! Hahaha! He told me it was a mid 70's model and hyd. Controlled for the power box. I did see the valve for the sideshift.....he was shocked when I told him the brake pedal went to the floor...hmmmm.... Maybe I shouldn't be so eager to buy it; I found a larger machine a few hours from me; gonna have one of my buddies do some legwork for me. My apologies for not posting pictures. In my eagerness to buy lunch for my group today, I actually forgot to take photos! Secondly, it seems like every time I do post a picture, it always come out upside down. Maybe that's the feature provided for the folks in the Southern Hemisphere? Lol. Yeah Glen, you know you can play with my tractors anytime, as a matter of fact, I am out of parking at the main shop. You'll be doing me a favor.
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Thu, Dec 31, 2015 11:12 AM
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Wow! So far you guys seem much more believable than the seller! Hahaha! He told me it was a mid 70's model and hyd. Controlled for the power box. I did see the valve for the sideshift.....he was shocked when I told him the brake pedal went to the floor...hmmmm.... Maybe I shouldn't be so eager to buy it; I found a larger machine a few hours from me; gonna have one of my buddies do some legwork for me. My apologies for not posting pictures. In my eagerness to buy lunch for my group today, I actually forgot to take photos! Secondly, it seems like every time I do post a picture, it always come out upside down. Maybe that's the feature provided for the folks in the Southern Hemisphere? Lol. Yeah Glen, you know you can play with my tractors anytime, as a matter of fact, I am out of parking at the main shop. You'll be doing me a favor.
Hey Juiceman,

I've got a pair of Cat 12's. The treads are down a little, but I hear you can get them re-skinned. Good for -20 and water tight. Can't find serial number, does any body know where they put the serial numbers on boots?:bounce: Hahaha
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