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Hi Guys and Gals,

Yesterday my wife and I went to the Seabee Museum in Port Hueneme CA to find out more about "Mary Ann" and her sisters and brothers. Here is just a bit of what I learned.

- During the first Operation Deep Freeze '55-'56, they lost two LGPD8s. Richard T. Williams was out on the bay ice and had just crossed a bridge spanning a large crack when he went 20' further and the machine dropped into 600' of water. Both doors and the roof hatch were locked open but Richard was unable to get out. A few months later. Max Kiel had his tractor fall into a crevasse 125' to 150' deep and was also lost. Both men had airfields down there named for them in their memory.
- The ships would come in against the ice pack to unload. Sometimes the ice was not substantial enough to hold the D8s so the 20 ton sleds would be winched out to the ships, loaded and then winched back to firm ice by the D8's winches. So "Mary Ann" felt right at home pulling on that old tug. She's been there-done that. When Mr. Williams fell through, they loaded all the stores back on to the ship then the icebreaker forced a new channel to a firmer place to unload. Of course, then the icebreaker went aground in doing that and it took 1.5 hours of backing with her 21,000 HP engines and the crew transferring ballast to get her off.
- At least one of the stretch D8s was delivered in pieces and actually assembled in Antarctica. Now that would be a real chore!
- In addition to the stretch D8s, unmodified D8 tractors were also sent down there. I also saw a picture of a D9 ripping rock for an airfield. They also used a lot of D4s and 955 Traxcavators with forks and widened pads like Mary Ann's for unloading and loading. Some loaders had blades for pushing also.

I talked a lot with the volunteer docent and mentioned that I knew Ed Akin had donated a D7 to the museum and did he know where it was. He went and got a flashlight then said, "Come with me." There were no lights in the future exhibit room where it sits but I was able to get a couple of pictures with just the flash. They are working on getting Ed's tractor on display by the Seabee's 75th Anniversary in March 2017. Anyone coming out for the ACMOC national show could go have a look. It is a 7M but I did not get the rest of the SN.

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Thu, Dec 17, 2015 8:02 AM
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Cool info Jan. Thanks for researching and posting.
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Thu, Dec 17, 2015 8:06 AM
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Reply to old-iron-habit:
Cool info Jan. Thanks for researching and posting.
Hey Jan,

Did you see Pam or any other sisters there?
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Thu, Dec 17, 2015 8:14 AM
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Reply to 7upuller:
Hey Jan,

Did you see Pam or any other sisters there?
Glen,

The staff there does not know anything about "Pam" but that's not saying she is not there somewhere on the base. The docent who took me in to see the 7M told me there was another D8 from Antarctica displayed on base just across from the old museum location. I saw it back in 2007 when I was there last so I know it is not "Pam". I looked around for any pictures that I took on that visit but I guess I did not take any as none showed up. If I remember right, it was painted bright orange and the blade on it was not the right one because it would not be able to be raised the way they had it set up. Being inside the base, you can't get out to them anymore like you could when the museum was right across the road. They would give you a pass to go to the museum back then. The new building is accessed from the street so it is not "on base".

Regarding the story of stretch D8s, there is a lot more that we have to dig up but eventually, we'll get an article in the ACMOC magazine on these historic tractors. Any members who have any part of this story, please PM Deas, Glen or myself so we can gather more of the story.

Jan
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Thu, Dec 17, 2015 10:22 AM
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Reply to janmeermans:
Glen,

The staff there does not know anything about "Pam" but that's not saying she is not there somewhere on the base. The docent who took me in to see the 7M told me there was another D8 from Antarctica displayed on base just across from the old museum location. I saw it back in 2007 when I was there last so I know it is not "Pam". I looked around for any pictures that I took on that visit but I guess I did not take any as none showed up. If I remember right, it was painted bright orange and the blade on it was not the right one because it would not be able to be raised the way they had it set up. Being inside the base, you can't get out to them anymore like you could when the museum was right across the road. They would give you a pass to go to the museum back then. The new building is accessed from the street so it is not "on base".

Regarding the story of stretch D8s, there is a lot more that we have to dig up but eventually, we'll get an article in the ACMOC magazine on these historic tractors. Any members who have any part of this story, please PM Deas, Glen or myself so we can gather more of the story.

Jan
Interesting stuff. Looking forward to the future article.
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Thu, Dec 17, 2015 11:17 AM
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Interesting stuff. Looking forward to the future article.
OK for those of us who don't know what's the story on the D7 you posted pictures of?

Rick
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Thu, Dec 17, 2015 11:46 AM
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Reply to Diesel Powered:
Interesting stuff. Looking forward to the future article.
Hi, JanM.
Great stuff, M8. It sounds like we may need to pay them another visit, maybe around Santa Margarita-Memorial Day weekend next year, to see if they have any more material 'cattle-dogged'.

I have heard back from the PR man at the National Science Foundation who is the contact for public access. How-wevver, he is out of the office until 12-20-2015 and goes on holidays from 12-21-2015. That's nearly as much use a breast pocket in a G-string or an udder on a hen for any immediate hope of getting anything from him. Maybe after the holiday?

I had one response from the archives guy at Cat, Peoria, but nothing since to 2 later e-mails. I may need to shoot another one off to him in the New Year.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Thu, Dec 17, 2015 11:50 AM
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Hi, JanM.
Great stuff, M8. It sounds like we may need to pay them another visit, maybe around Santa Margarita-Memorial Day weekend next year, to see if they have any more material 'cattle-dogged'.

I have heard back from the PR man at the National Science Foundation who is the contact for public access. How-wevver, he is out of the office until 12-20-2015 and goes on holidays from 12-21-2015. That's nearly as much use a breast pocket in a G-string or an udder on a hen for any immediate hope of getting anything from him. Maybe after the holiday?

I had one response from the archives guy at Cat, Peoria, but nothing since to 2 later e-mails. I may need to shoot another one off to him in the New Year.

Just my 0.02.
Hi, Folks.
Here is a link to another video with a glimpse or two on SD8 LGPs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XLlymmV2lc

Enjoy

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Fri, Dec 18, 2015 10:02 PM
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Reply to oldtanker:
OK for those of us who don't know what's the story on the D7 you posted pictures of?

Rick
[quote="oldtanker"]OK for those of us who don't know what's the story on the D7 you posted pictures of?

Rick[/quote]

Not much of a story. I saw Ed Akin up at the Powerland Show in Brooks Oregon two years ago wearing a Seabee cap. When I asked him about it, he told me he donated a D7 to the Seabee Museum and they gave him the hat. Since I was there, I thought I might as well try to see the D7 and was able to do so after sweet talking the docent who let me go into the non-public area. I don't know where Ed got the machine or when.

JanM
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Reply to janmeermans:
[quote="oldtanker"]OK for those of us who don't know what's the story on the D7 you posted pictures of?

Rick[/quote]

Not much of a story. I saw Ed Akin up at the Powerland Show in Brooks Oregon two years ago wearing a Seabee cap. When I asked him about it, he told me he donated a D7 to the Seabee Museum and they gave him the hat. Since I was there, I thought I might as well try to see the D7 and was able to do so after sweet talking the docent who let me go into the non-public area. I don't know where Ed got the machine or when.

JanM
At 7:40 that is a D9.
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Sat, Dec 19, 2015 8:07 AM
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At 7:40 that is a D9.
I grew up playing on that stuff in the 50s to the 70s my dad was a bee a EO we moved all over and when i did not go i stayed on my gran dad,s ranch feed lot dairy and ran every thing from a 22 to a 8R with a scraper building ponds then my folks just left me their and i love it the oldest gran son and the only one for 16 years and to have your idol old time cowboy and you got to learn the ropes from your dad and him i had a good life my dad was a GREAT BEE he was in 4 different branches of the military and 4 discharges from them all i am very proud of my dad and i raised a son that is a GREAT SEA BEE as well to many combat tours he was navy EOD last tour had one go off a little one but now has a artificial hart valve and they made him retire 8 combat tours lots of stuff but i still have him in one peace going to collage if the VA would quit F**KING TAKING HIS MONEY AWAY SORRY GUYS LOOSING THE WIFE AND THIN THIS STUFF GETS TO ME I AM SORRY
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