ACMOC
Login
ACMOC
Propane injection

Propane injection

Showing 1 to 10 of 13 results
1
Magard
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Magard
Posts: 147
Thank you received: 0
Hey all been farming with my old d4 5t. I have a d4 7u that I'm going to
get going needs major motor work I guess it was ran out of oil. Any how been think about propane injection instead of turbo anybody have any thoughts. Just looking for alittle extra power when I hit a tough spot.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 18, 2015 11:40 AM
8C 361
Offline
Member
Send a private message to 8C 361
Posts: 734
Thank you received: 3
The horsepower on either your 5T or 7U can be increased dramatically by altering the settings for rack and rpm. Any change from factory settings is not advisable. The factory settings are carefully arrived at by Caterpillar engineers through years of testing and calculation. Any change from these settings risks destruction of your drive train and ultimate dependability of your tractor. No turbo or propane necessary.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 18, 2015 7:47 PM
Magard
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Magard
Posts: 147
Thank you received: 0
Reply to 8C 361:
The horsepower on either your 5T or 7U can be increased dramatically by altering the settings for rack and rpm. Any change from factory settings is not advisable. The factory settings are carefully arrived at by Caterpillar engineers through years of testing and calculation. Any change from these settings risks destruction of your drive train and ultimate dependability of your tractor. No turbo or propane necessary.
I thought the drivetrain could handle it because cat put a d4600 engine on a d4 chassis and called it a d5. Not sure what modifications were done. That's why I thought it could easily handle alittle more. The fuel pumps don't seem to be really conducive to much fuel gian to really utilize a turbo.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 18, 2015 9:31 PM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,696
Thank you received: 18
Reply to Magard:
I thought the drivetrain could handle it because cat put a d4600 engine on a d4 chassis and called it a d5. Not sure what modifications were done. That's why I thought it could easily handle alittle more. The fuel pumps don't seem to be really conducive to much fuel gian to really utilize a turbo.
With the right fuel injector pump camshaft and increased rack setting you can coax a little more hp out of the D4400 but with out engine balancer you are limited in rpm.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 18, 2015 10:37 PM
Magard
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Magard
Posts: 147
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Old Magnet:
With the right fuel injector pump camshaft and increased rack setting you can coax a little more hp out of the D4400 but with out engine balancer you are limited in rpm.
How about the 41/2" bore. Is it a 315 or something. The engine in a 7u.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 18, 2015 11:44 PM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,696
Thank you received: 18
Reply to Magard:
How about the 41/2" bore. Is it a 315 or something. The engine in a 7u.
The 7U uses the D315 engine. Engine balancer was not added until s/n 7U26583.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Oct 18, 2015 11:55 PM
Magard
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Magard
Posts: 147
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Old Magnet:
The 7U uses the D315 engine. Engine balancer was not added until s/n 7U26583.
7u35268 what can you tell me about it. What year is it?
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Oct 19, 2015 12:26 AM
drujinin
Offline
Send a private message to drujinin
Posts: 3,852
Thank you received: 1
Reply to Magard:
7u35268 what can you tell me about it. What year is it?
That 7U will have a lot more HP already over the 5T, You shouldn't need any more for "Tough Spots".
Ask anyone who has one of those "D5's" about the rear end being slopped out from too much horsepower.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Oct 19, 2015 12:35 AM
Magard
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Magard
Posts: 147
Thank you received: 0
Reply to drujinin:
That 7U will have a lot more HP already over the 5T, You shouldn't need any more for "Tough Spots".
Ask anyone who has one of those "D5's" about the rear end being slopped out from too much horsepower.
So that's why they only made 40 something of them.
What year would this 7u be. Just curious.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Oct 19, 2015 12:59 AM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,696
Thank you received: 18
Reply to Magard:
So that's why they only made 40 something of them.
What year would this 7u be. Just curious.
7U35268 mfg. is early 1956.

5T hp is 44hp @ 1400 flrpm
The 112 grader got 52hp @ 1500 flrpm (D4400)

7U29424-37284 58 hp @ 1600 flrpm
7U37285 got 60.5hp
The 3U grader got 72hp @ 1800 flrpm (D315) with different governor and spring.

For comparison the 4R/5R D6 (D4600) got 70hp @ 1400 flrpm
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Oct 19, 2015 1:19 AM
Magard
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Magard
Posts: 147
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Old Magnet:
7U35268 mfg. is early 1956.

5T hp is 44hp @ 1400 flrpm
The 112 grader got 52hp @ 1500 flrpm (D4400)

7U29424-37284 58 hp @ 1600 flrpm
7U37285 got 60.5hp
The 3U grader got 72hp @ 1800 flrpm (D315) with different governor and spring.

For comparison the 4R/5R D6 (D4600) got 70hp @ 1400 flrpm
So a d4 drive train is maxed out with a strong running d315. I'll bet the torque from a d4600 is way over board. A d315 is quite an improvement on a d4400.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Oct 19, 2015 1:41 AM
Showing 1 to 10 of 13 results
1
YouTube Video Placeholder

Follow Us on Social Media

Our channel highlights machines from the earliest Holt and Best track-type tractors, equipment from the start of Caterpillar in 1925, up to units built in the mid-1960s.

Upcoming Events

Cromford Steam Rally

Chapter Two

| Highacres Farm, Dewey Lane, Brackenfield, Derbyshire DE55 6DB, UK

The Century of Caterpillar

| Elkader, 203 Johnson St, Elkader, IA 52043, USA

100 YEARS OF CATERPILLAR IN TASMANIA

Chapter Nineteen

| 2 Winkleigh Rd, Exeter TAS 7275
View Calendar
ACMOC

Antique Caterpillar
Machinery Owners Club

1115 Madison St NE # 1117
Salem, OR 97301

[email protected]

Terms & Privacy
Website developed by AdCo

Testimonials

"I also joined a year ago. had been on here a couple of times as a non-member and found the info very helpful so I got a one year subscription (not very expensive at all) to try it out. I really like all the resources on here so I just got a three year. I think its a very small price for what you can get out of this site."
-Jason N

Join Today!