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D6 9u Fuel in the oil

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Ray54
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Where do I start looking ? Is it the transfer pump most of the time.As I have some thinks to get done,and several other D6's that need more things fixed,can I just change transfer pumps?What other places to look?I did loosen the overflow lines and got air through,so they are not blocked by bugs or dirt.

This D6 was parked in a barn in 85 with the farm land retirement program.Used 1 to 2 days a year to make fire brakes,until the one steering clutch got froze up. I payed what the owner was offered as scrape 3 years ago.Took a year at my slow speed to redo both steering clutches. Put a inline fuel filter on as tank looked very rusty.Used it a few hours decided it had to much rust in fuel tank so changed tanks.Pulled very well but no hydraulics but a weak Bee-Gee pump so only used it 50-100 hours last year.About the same us this year.Last couple of days the oil looked a little thin so changed it ,after 6 hours of run time looks like before change.Has always used some oil,a gallon in 6 to 8 hours depending how hard it is worked.So oil is not staying full even with fuel being added but by how thin oil is I don't want to run it and damage the crankshaft.It still pegs the old Cat oil pressure gauge.

I know a lot of this has been discussed here before,but search is not getting anything but edb tool for packing a new seal.Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Sun, Apr 26, 2015 10:13 AM
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O ring on ferrule between filter housing and injection pump houusing is a common point of failure.gaMuch more common than the fuel lift pump. Older engines have another identical o-ring on a plug blocking off the governor end of the injection pump fuel supply gallery. Later engines had an injection pump housing casting that didn't use the plug and o-ring on governor end.

CAT calls them a seal, and they typically will be a triangular section from getting hard after being compressed into that space for many years, but they are a common round o-ring.
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Sun, Apr 26, 2015 10:27 AM
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I just worked on a neighbors 9U that was getting fuel into the crankcase last month. The culprit was the O ring between the fuel injection pump and the filter tower. There is also an identical O ring at the other end of the fuel rail between the injection pump and the governor that you may as well replace while you are there. Its not a very hard job, the injection pump drive can only be assembled one way (offset drive tang). I got the parts ( two O rings and two gaskets) from Cat for less than $35 if I remember right. The fuel pump is heavy so be prepared for that. Also there are a couple of bolts behind the fuel pump that are fun to get at, just get an assortment of u-joint sockets and extensions and be patient, you'll get em. Hope this helps.

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Sun, Apr 26, 2015 10:38 AM
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I just worked on a neighbors 9U that was getting fuel into the crankcase last month. The culprit was the O ring between the fuel injection pump and the filter tower. There is also an identical O ring at the other end of the fuel rail between the injection pump and the governor that you may as well replace while you are there. Its not a very hard job, the injection pump drive can only be assembled one way (offset drive tang). I got the parts ( two O rings and two gaskets) from Cat for less than $35 if I remember right. The fuel pump is heavy so be prepared for that. Also there are a couple of bolts behind the fuel pump that are fun to get at, just get an assortment of u-joint sockets and extensions and be patient, you'll get em. Hope this helps.

Good luck

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Sorry for the double info, ccjersey types faster than I do! lol

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Sun, Apr 26, 2015 10:40 AM
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Sorry for the double info, ccjersey types faster than I do! lol

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yes, most common source.
Take that funny shaped cover off the filter tower and you can see the leak source.
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Sun, Apr 26, 2015 12:25 PM
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yes, most common source.
Take that funny shaped cover off the filter tower and you can see the leak source.
Raymond, I changed the "O" ring on the ferrule on my 7U after removing the injector housing late last year. It is inexpensive to do and not too time consuming. The housing is heavy and I lifted it onto the track and fixed it there. The nut in the back is tough to get to. I did pressure wash the crud out from behind before working on it and that helps a lot to see what you are doing. The "O" ring is a fat one and crushes down when you tighten the bolts while installing the housing. I did change the lip seal since I had it apart. That keeps the fuel out of the injector housing.
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Sun, Apr 26, 2015 12:47 PM
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Raymond, I changed the "O" ring on the ferrule on my 7U after removing the injector housing late last year. It is inexpensive to do and not too time consuming. The housing is heavy and I lifted it onto the track and fixed it there. The nut in the back is tough to get to. I did pressure wash the crud out from behind before working on it and that helps a lot to see what you are doing. The "O" ring is a fat one and crushes down when you tighten the bolts while installing the housing. I did change the lip seal since I had it apart. That keeps the fuel out of the injector housing.
The seal/s 8B4967 are actually #318 O-rings.
The lip seal in the pump housing is to keep oil in the pump. Good time to change if needed. Any fuel or oil leakage would run down in the housing and wind up in the main engine sump.
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