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Hello,
My Cat 22, 2F5209, did not have a fuel pump when I got it from my Brother-in-law. It just ran on gravity feed. Not the greatest when going up and down hills. I am thinking of installing an electric fuel pump, since my Cat already has electric start, battery and generator. Does anyone have suggestions on a good pump to use for this application? I probably will also add an in-line fuel filter while I am at it. All suggestions appreciated. Ray
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Wed, Jan 28, 2015 9:34 AM
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Hi Ray, I'm just rebuilding 4 fuel pumps for my Twenty Two's right now, I lucked out when my neighbor wandered by yesterday and told me he wasn't working for the next couple of weeks so I showed him my rotted out one way valves and he returned a hour later with a couple of new one's he made on his lathe, so the problem that had me stalled the past few months of finding valves has been overcome.

My suggestion is put a advert in the For Sale / Wanted to Buy section and buy a decent genuine pump off a 22 and put the tractor back to original spec so it will look right, a real nice guy called Mike at "Then and Now" has a good kit (#SW-807)which is pretty good for rebuilding those pumps though I'm finding not all the new bits are quite the right size but can be modified to suit, importantly the diaphragm is the right size and the holes are punched in the right spot, those kits cost about $45, better still, send him the pump and he will recondition it for around $100 or $110.
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Reply to Mike Meyer:
Hi Ray, I'm just rebuilding 4 fuel pumps for my Twenty Two's right now, I lucked out when my neighbor wandered by yesterday and told me he wasn't working for the next couple of weeks so I showed him my rotted out one way valves and he returned a hour later with a couple of new one's he made on his lathe, so the problem that had me stalled the past few months of finding valves has been overcome.

My suggestion is put a advert in the For Sale / Wanted to Buy section and buy a decent genuine pump off a 22 and put the tractor back to original spec so it will look right, a real nice guy called Mike at "Then and Now" has a good kit (#SW-807)which is pretty good for rebuilding those pumps though I'm finding not all the new bits are quite the right size but can be modified to suit, importantly the diaphragm is the right size and the holes are punched in the right spot, those kits cost about $45, better still, send him the pump and he will recondition it for around $100 or $110.
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has "some" pumps in stock. Mike is right on the price, they did mine for $130 including adding a bunch of missing pieces along with a mod on the glass bowl/filters. If you go electric, bout 2 years ago, there was a kid on here with a loader 22 that put an electric fuel pump on his. His name slips me right now but he was out in Washington state and is apprenticing as a CAT Mechanic.
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Reply to drujinin:
has "some" pumps in stock. Mike is right on the price, they did mine for $130 including adding a bunch of missing pieces along with a mod on the glass bowl/filters. If you go electric, bout 2 years ago, there was a kid on here with a loader 22 that put an electric fuel pump on his. His name slips me right now but he was out in Washington state and is apprenticing as a CAT Mechanic.


lil cat mech, I have not seen him on the board for a while. I was wondering the other day how he is doing.
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lil cat mech, I have not seen him on the board for a while. I was wondering the other day how he is doing.
I am the young man with the 22 loader, I have a Carter universal fuel pump. I believe it is rated at 3-5psi and 20-25gph if I recall correctly, I was having issues with it flooding but a new needle and seat fixed that issue.
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I am the young man with the 22 loader, I have a Carter universal fuel pump. I believe it is rated at 3-5psi and 20-25gph if I recall correctly, I was having issues with it flooding but a new needle and seat fixed that issue.
My electric pump is such a Rube Goldberg setup that I'm almost hesitant to post it, so let me apologize right up front to my fellow Chapter 17 members in case this brings any shame to our group.😄


I put everything in the tool box to keep it out of the way. The hose goes from the tank first to an inline filter, then an AC EP12S pump and then a pressure regulator and on out to the carb. The tractor seems to run best with the regulator set at 2.5. My tractor doesn't have an electrical system so I use the 12 volt 7 amp hour battery from my portable fish finder. I only need to run the tractor 3 or 4 hours at a time but this system has worked out well for over 20 years now.

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Thu, Jan 29, 2015 2:45 AM
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My electric pump is such a Rube Goldberg setup that I'm almost hesitant to post it, so let me apologize right up front to my fellow Chapter 17 members in case this brings any shame to our group.😄


I put everything in the tool box to keep it out of the way. The hose goes from the tank first to an inline filter, then an AC EP12S pump and then a pressure regulator and on out to the carb. The tractor seems to run best with the regulator set at 2.5. My tractor doesn't have an electrical system so I use the 12 volt 7 amp hour battery from my portable fish finder. I only need to run the tractor 3 or 4 hours at a time but this system has worked out well for over 20 years now.

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Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. Not sure what direction I will go in. Electric or original?
Ray
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Thu, Jan 29, 2015 7:28 AM
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Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. Not sure what direction I will go in. Electric or original?
Ray
My vote is for original Ray (nothing against LCM or Randy's installations - they do the job and I think it's ingenious putting the equipment into the toolbox) because you've restored everything else on that tractor. Plus, original means no "extra" stuff on the machine
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Thu, Jan 29, 2015 9:51 AM
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My vote is for original Ray (nothing against LCM or Randy's installations - they do the job and I think it's ingenious putting the equipment into the toolbox) because you've restored everything else on that tractor. Plus, original means no "extra" stuff on the machine
if I were to re do it, I would have just saved up the money and done it right, put it back to original. I was anxious to get it running, now I don't like the electric fuel pump ive gone through too many toggle switches due to weather and cheep parts...

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