ACMOC
Login
ACMOC
Flywheel Clutch

Flywheel Clutch

Showing 1 to 10 of 84 results
1
Alfred
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Alfred
Posts: 47
Thank you received: 0
Greetings folks.

I recently purchased a 1956 D7 17A. Before I start using the dozer in earnest there are some repairs I need to make (steering clutch linkage) in addition to checking and replacing the fluids as needed. At the moment I am focusing on the flywheel clutch. There seems to be some grinding when shifting in to forward or reverse. I suspect that possibly the flywheel clutch is out of adjustment. When the Johnson Bar is pushed all the way forward (this should stop the flywheel) the flywheel is probably still turning causing the gears to grind when shifting. One thing I noticed is that the flywheel clutch oil is very low. What I actually can see on the dip stick is but a small amount of whitish paste like material. What purpose does the flywheel clutch oil serve? Has anyone here had experience cleaning the oil pump suction screen?
Attachment
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 3:41 AM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,695
Thank you received: 17
The primary advantage of the oil clutch is lubrication and cooling.
Your oil is contaminated, usually by water/condensation. Oil needs to be changed with current recommendation being 30wt Transmission/Drive Train oil. 17 quarts required.

Oil pump suction strainer cleaning is a routine service requirement. Located at the bottom back side of the clutch housing (key shaped cover)

Here are the instructions for adjusting the main clutch and the flywheel clutch brake. Brake band/lining should be inspected first as they are often found to be worn out.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 4:39 AM
Alfred
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Alfred
Posts: 47
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Old Magnet:
The primary advantage of the oil clutch is lubrication and cooling.
Your oil is contaminated, usually by water/condensation. Oil needs to be changed with current recommendation being 30wt Transmission/Drive Train oil. 17 quarts required.

Oil pump suction strainer cleaning is a routine service requirement. Located at the bottom back side of the clutch housing (key shaped cover)

Here are the instructions for adjusting the main clutch and the flywheel clutch brake. Brake band/lining should be inspected first as they are often found to be worn out.
[quote="Old Magnet"]The primary advantage of the oil clutch is lubrication and cooling.
Your oil is contaminated, usually by water/condensation. Oil needs to be changed with current recommendation being 30wt Transmission/Drive Train oil. 17 quarts required.

Oil pump suction strainer cleaning is a routine service requirement. Located at the bottom back side of the clutch housing (key shaped cover)

Here are the instructions for adjusting the main clutch and the flywheel clutch brake. Brake band/lining should be inspected first as they are often found to be worn out.[/quote]

Thanks, Old Magnet. Just what I was looking for.

Is the clutch flywheel brake separate from the steering clutch brake?
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 5:06 AM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,695
Thank you received: 17
Reply to Alfred:
[quote="Old Magnet"]The primary advantage of the oil clutch is lubrication and cooling.
Your oil is contaminated, usually by water/condensation. Oil needs to be changed with current recommendation being 30wt Transmission/Drive Train oil. 17 quarts required.

Oil pump suction strainer cleaning is a routine service requirement. Located at the bottom back side of the clutch housing (key shaped cover)

Here are the instructions for adjusting the main clutch and the flywheel clutch brake. Brake band/lining should be inspected first as they are often found to be worn out.[/quote]

Thanks, Old Magnet. Just what I was looking for.

Is the clutch flywheel brake separate from the steering clutch brake?
Completely separate mounted on the combination drum/coupling.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 5:46 AM
Alfred
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Alfred
Posts: 47
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Old Magnet:
Completely separate mounted on the combination drum/coupling.


The large cover encompassing everything that is shown in the diagram I assume has to come off? And the brake is inside?
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 6:03 AM
razz
Offline
Send a private message to razz
Posts: 85
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Alfred:


The large cover encompassing everything that is shown in the diagram I assume has to come off? And the brake is inside?
The break is on the outside of clutch housing the break has a small lining could just need adjustment. .razz
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 6:15 AM
Alfred
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Alfred
Posts: 47
Thank you received: 0
Reply to razz:
The break is on the outside of clutch housing the break has a small lining could just need adjustment. .razz


O.K., I see it now. It's called "band assembly". Is it difficult to replace if that's necessary?
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 6:30 AM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,695
Thank you received: 17
Reply to Alfred:


O.K., I see it now. It's called "band assembly". Is it difficult to replace if that's necessary?
Not a big job, lining/facing is available aftermarket for $10.15.
Requires riveting
Local commercial clutch/brake shop could probably line the band for you.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 6:47 AM
Alfred
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Alfred
Posts: 47
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Old Magnet:
Not a big job, lining/facing is available aftermarket for $10.15.
Requires riveting
Local commercial clutch/brake shop could probably line the band for you.
[quote="Old Magnet"]Not a big job, lining/facing is available aftermarket for $10.15.
Requires riveting
Local commercial clutch/brake shop could probably line the band for you.[/quote]

Sounds great Magnet. That will be my first project - cleaning the pump screen, putting in new oil, adjusting the clutch and brake band, and replacing the brake band if necessary. Hopefully the clutch is o.k.

Thank you! You guy's have been very helpful.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 7:00 AM
ccjersey
Offline
Send a private message to ccjersey
Posts: 4,422
Thank you received: 0
Johnson bar is a name for the reverser lever. I think you are describing the motion of the main clutch lever which should stop the transmission input shaft when it is pushed firmly forward. This also releases the transmission shifter lock mechanism. The flywheel will not stop while the engine is running, and the oil between the clutch disks and the spinning pressure plate/flywheel makes the clutch disks and transmission input shaft tend to turn even when the clutch is disengaged.

Cleaning up the clutch and filling with new oil will probably help lessen the tendency for the clutch to drag, but not eliminate it entirely. The running tractor can move suddenly any time the transmission is in a gear even with the clutch disengaged, so applying and locking the brake is a good idea unless you have the dozer on the ground etc. I had a D6 that would surge forward a few inches to a foot when the main engine started unless it was prevented by by some sort of brake or resistance. Quite exciting when you're sitting on the track working the pony motor controls!

This is one reason for the recommendation to place trans shifter in neutral and engage the main clutch whenever you leave the seat of the tractor with the engine still running. Just too easy to bump the clutch lever and away she goes! Or it's remotely possible that the clutch pilot bearing or other clutch component could seize and make the tractor move.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time😄
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 7:03 AM
Alfred
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to Alfred
Posts: 47
Thank you received: 0
Reply to ccjersey:
Johnson bar is a name for the reverser lever. I think you are describing the motion of the main clutch lever which should stop the transmission input shaft when it is pushed firmly forward. This also releases the transmission shifter lock mechanism. The flywheel will not stop while the engine is running, and the oil between the clutch disks and the spinning pressure plate/flywheel makes the clutch disks and transmission input shaft tend to turn even when the clutch is disengaged.

Cleaning up the clutch and filling with new oil will probably help lessen the tendency for the clutch to drag, but not eliminate it entirely. The running tractor can move suddenly any time the transmission is in a gear even with the clutch disengaged, so applying and locking the brake is a good idea unless you have the dozer on the ground etc. I had a D6 that would surge forward a few inches to a foot when the main engine started unless it was prevented by by some sort of brake or resistance. Quite exciting when you're sitting on the track working the pony motor controls!

This is one reason for the recommendation to place trans shifter in neutral and engage the main clutch whenever you leave the seat of the tractor with the engine still running. Just too easy to bump the clutch lever and away she goes! Or it's remotely possible that the clutch pilot bearing or other clutch component could seize and make the tractor move.


Thanks for the correction. I'm new at all this, and just started getting my feet wet!
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Sep 29, 2014 7:09 AM
Showing 1 to 10 of 84 results
1
YouTube Video Placeholder

Follow Us on Social Media

Our channel highlights machines from the earliest Holt and Best track-type tractors, equipment from the start of Caterpillar in 1925, up to units built in the mid-1960s.

Upcoming Events

Veerkamp Open House 2025

Chapter Fifteen

| Placerville, CA

Stradsett Park Vintage Rally

Chapter Two

| Stradsett, Nr Downham Market. Norfolk PE33 9HA UK

Chapter 2 The Link Club's AGM

Chapter Two

| Faulkner Farm, West Drove, Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, PE14 7DP, UK
View Calendar
ACMOC

Antique Caterpillar
Machinery Owners Club

1115 Madison St NE # 1117
Salem, OR 97301

[email protected]

Terms & Privacy
Website developed by AdCo

Testimonials

"I became a member recently because the wealth of knowledge here is priceless." 
-Chris R

Join Today!