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D2 steering clutch replacement

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Arthropod
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Someone posted recently asking about D2 steering clutch replacement. I started mine this past weekend. This is the fifth time I've replace a clutch, so the work is probably going faster than someone doing it for the first time. The first set of pictures are six hours worth of work. That got me to the point where I could begin pulling the clutch. Note I removed the tracks as a unit. I'll drive out the master link before I do the track install. Previous owner had screwed up the master link. It will be a PITA to remove. The next set of pictures I'll attach are another five hours work, which includes pulling the pack and drilling and tapping holes in the remains of the busted brake drum collar so I could pull it off the shaft.

During the final removal the brake drum busted. First time I had one break, but after seeing the clutch pack, the brake drum would never have slid off and the clutch was never going to break free. The clutch pack was a real mess.

A tip....when you have the puller on the clutch pack, tighten as much as you can, then heat the clutch pack where it mates to the shaft. Then take a hammer and smack the end of threaded rod of the puller. This will cause the pack to pop loose. You have to removed the pivot bolts from the throwout bearing yoke. Then the pack slips off the shaft. I have three spare clutch packs. I'm just going to install the best looking pack. It will be tons better than the left side, which is worn, but still serviceable.
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Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:48 PM
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Removing the clutch pack and also the remains of the brake drum from the final. New seal waiting for me at CAT for behind the brake drum. Only $8. I used an OTC 938 17 1/2 ton puller to pull the clutch. I pulled the busted brake drum collar with a 10 ton OTC puller. It's a little smaller in size and suited the job better. I have various threaded couplers for the pullers and I use threaded rod and couplers to attach the pullers to whatever is getting pulled.
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Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:52 PM
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Removing the clutch pack and also the remains of the brake drum from the final. New seal waiting for me at CAT for behind the brake drum. Only $8. I used an OTC 938 17 1/2 ton puller to pull the clutch. I pulled the busted brake drum collar with a 10 ton OTC puller. It's a little smaller in size and suited the job better. I have various threaded couplers for the pullers and I use threaded rod and couplers to attach the pullers to whatever is getting pulled.
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Great posting!!! Detailed instructions with pictures---better than a shop manual! 👍
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Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:52 PM
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Reply to dpendzic:
Great posting!!! Detailed instructions with pictures---better than a shop manual! 👍
Nice pictures
Great job
You can see how important it is to work the right tool
Most importantly you have the tool

👍 👍


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Nice pictures
Great job
You can see how important it is to work the right tool
Most importantly you have the tool

👍 👍


Itzik
Arthropod,

Thanks for the great and detailed pics, I'm sure it will be a good referance for all that follow!

Mike. 👍

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Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:18 PM
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Arthropod,

Thanks for the great and detailed pics, I'm sure it will be a good referance for all that follow!

Mike. 👍

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Thanks. I hope this post can help others. You guys know it's not rocket science, just hard work. But rewarding. Just need to take your time. I started wedging the final away from the trans housing using screw drivers, then chisels. I had it spread away from the housing over half an inch and it wasn't coming free. I then pulled out all the wedges and did it again. This time the brake drum broke and of course the final came sliding away and I could see the remains of the drum still around the clutch pack and the rest of the drum's shattered pieces lay in the final. Getting what was left of the brake drum (not much) off the final shaft was a PITA. I first drilled several holes all the way through it, thinking I could take my air chisel and crack it in two since it is cast iron. One side cracked and I could see it was loose from the shaft, but it still wouldn't come free. So then I drilled and tapped some new puller holes and used my 10 ton puller on it. It came out then. Then it's just the matter of removing the worn out brake band, old seal, clean stuff. Luckily I have several clutches from other machines I've disassembled. And I have some pretty good spare throwout bearings. All I need to purchase is the 8F3522 final seal.
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Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:39 PM
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Arthropod,

Thanks for the great and detailed pics, I'm sure it will be a good referance for all that follow!

Mike. 👍

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[quote="lyoncat"]Arthropod,

Thanks for the great and detailed pics, I'm sure it will be a good referance for all that follow!

Mike. 👍

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Arthropod, I have the same job coming up this summer, very valuable info

regards Dennie
Restored 1970 ford tractor,1931 Model A PU streetrod, lifted 1978 F150, 1971 VW bug, antique chain saws
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Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:09 PM
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[quote="lyoncat"]Arthropod,

Thanks for the great and detailed pics, I'm sure it will be a good referance for all that follow!

Mike. 👍

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Arthropod, I have the same job coming up this summer, very valuable info

regards Dennie
Glad it will help.

I had the seal part numbers listed wrong. This should be the correct seals-

Seal behind brake drum - old number: 4B4967 - New number:5K2595 @ $11.64 each.
Seal behind clutch pack - old number:4B3675 - New number:8F3522 @ $7.49 each.

They also still have the grease tube for the throwout bearing - 1H6752 @ $36 each.
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Tue, Apr 26, 2011 12:41 AM
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Glad it will help.

I had the seal part numbers listed wrong. This should be the correct seals-

Seal behind brake drum - old number: 4B4967 - New number:5K2595 @ $11.64 each.
Seal behind clutch pack - old number:4B3675 - New number:8F3522 @ $7.49 each.

They also still have the grease tube for the throwout bearing - 1H6752 @ $36 each.
Good post, thanks. Does the new "grease tube" come with a new carrier for the thrust bearing, because the old thrust bearing relies on the lube oil flowing along a channel into the race, and I can't see how grease would do the same as it doesn't flow.

It would be like simply replacing the small oil cups on top of the trannies with grease zerks, and then thinking you have converted your old oil lube system in the thrust bearings with a new grease system. My RD4 had that "conversion":jaw: Those thrust bearings rely on the flowing ability of oil to reach them, so I'm interested to see the new grease line set up.

Keep up the good work.
regards
Mike
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Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:10 AM
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Reply to Mike Meyer:
Good post, thanks. Does the new "grease tube" come with a new carrier for the thrust bearing, because the old thrust bearing relies on the lube oil flowing along a channel into the race, and I can't see how grease would do the same as it doesn't flow.

It would be like simply replacing the small oil cups on top of the trannies with grease zerks, and then thinking you have converted your old oil lube system in the thrust bearings with a new grease system. My RD4 had that "conversion":jaw: Those thrust bearings rely on the flowing ability of oil to reach them, so I'm interested to see the new grease line set up.

Keep up the good work.
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Mike
I don't have a scanned picture handy, but I'll explain best I can. There are two styles. The earlier style is like you say, there is an oil cup at the bottom of a metal tube that catches oil and channels it to the bearing. On the later style the cup is gone and instead a grease hose tightens to the rear yoke pivot bolt just like a brake line attaches to a brake caliper. So pumping grease into the grease fitting up top forces the grease into the bearing via the tube and then on through the rear pivot bolt (that has a hole through its middle). The left side of this machine is the old style with the oil cup and the right side happens to have the updated style.
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Tue, Apr 26, 2011 7:11 PM
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I don't have a scanned picture handy, but I'll explain best I can. There are two styles. The earlier style is like you say, there is an oil cup at the bottom of a metal tube that catches oil and channels it to the bearing. On the later style the cup is gone and instead a grease hose tightens to the rear yoke pivot bolt just like a brake line attaches to a brake caliper. So pumping grease into the grease fitting up top forces the grease into the bearing via the tube and then on through the rear pivot bolt (that has a hole through its middle). The left side of this machine is the old style with the oil cup and the right side happens to have the updated style.
I didn't see any pics of you in a nice clean white shop coat. Don't you know that's required apparel for trouble free work on these old critters? 😆

Good job of posting those pics. 👍 That's about my least favorite job. .with a 50% success rate of not breaking a brake drum in the process.
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