D4 6U Steering Clutch Problem

I think it is inappropriate to be "bashing" the products of a long time supporter of ACMOC.

Jensales manuals are exactly as advertised and do a good job.

He has been an paying advertiser in our magazine, such as it is, for nearly as long as it has been published.

About that growling......pull both steering clutch levers back at the same time. If you feel (or see) movement from one lever to the other you have problems with the bevel gear bearings.

Thanks guys for your time. I had already purchased the operator manual and the parts manual and they have worked out great. Phildirt thanks for your comment... i think i plan on ordering the Jensales book and judge for myself. Any supporter of this group seems to be right on from my experience. I appreciate all input.

Garlic Pete, your detailed message was very helpful and detailed. Wow Thanks! I am going to try adjusting the lhs clutch some more based upon your comments. I appreciate your opinions as well.

My maintenance manual states, "Free movement should be measured between the forward position of the control lever and the position of the control lever when the steering clutch first starts to disengage." In the steps to adjust it states, "The clutch adjustment is correct if the looseness in the trunnion linkage is completely removed when the control lever reaches a point of 3 inches..."

So when i do the adjustment this time should I pull the clutch handle down three inches make the trunnion linkage loose and then back in to where it begins to tighten? Gonna try that...thoughts?

Unfortunately, when I started her to put her in the barn the direct start is now grinding... ugh. Pulled the starter and now looking for rebuild kits. The fly wheel seems a little chewed up. Not sure if I need clean that up or not. It looks like there has been things happening in there before. I am guessing the spring in the starter motor is weak causing it to not engage completely. If anyone knows of a rebuild kit for a starter that would be awesome to know. The only part number I see on the starter is 1912102. When I googled that number, I could only find a part stating it was a casing. The closest part from my book shows a starter group of 9F7908 and motor 6F8024. The motor doesn't look exactly like the the book. I will be calling around in the morning. Not sure if maybe this starter was added after the fact... more to follow on that effort.

Dpendzic, I am gonna drain the final drive oil and look for metal as well. The groaning went away when I adjusted the clutch and came back only when the symptoms reappeared. So gonna check that out the oil as well.

Again thanks for the input. More to follow. Awesome community... glad to be a part of it.

Does the starter have the solenoid directly mounted to the motor or is it remote mounted?

Does the starter have the solenoid directly mounted to the motor or is it remote mounted?

The solenoid is mounted remotely. I took some pictures of the starter.

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I looked up the part number for the drive assembly 9b8901. Called the Cat dealer and they said that part was replaced with 7n6068. He quoted me a price of $120. Online I have found the same part number that says it replaces 9b8901 for $28 to $35. Something does not seem right. I looked at the part and seems to be a different gear. Here is an amazon link that has it. http://www.amazon.com/SCREW-7N-6068-9B-8857-9B-8901-6140-121C/dp/B0081SA6NO

So still digging before I plunk down any money to be sure.

I did notice some play in the gear as it travels through the assembly. I am guess that might contribute to the misalignment as it tries to engage the fly wheel.

Thanks!

Your looking at the wrong starter. The 9B8901 is for the pony motor electric starter. The main engine starter is a 24v inertia drive type based on an early type Delco Remy 40MT motor. Almost impossible to find the starter drive and likly to be very pricey if you can find one. Brushes and bearings are still available. There are also two different drives used, a 7F4563 and a 4M1417 depending on what starter number you have.